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Sorry you're missing the point, I get that you can make whatever this is called with these sounds, but you could take the same sounds and make lots of other types of music too, maybe a bit faster or slower or whatever. Sound is just sound, it doesn't belong to particular genres. In 2 years time I am certain that another person will be making very similar sounds and claiming they belong to whatever genre is currently in fashion too. In fact I can point you to a thread where someone has done just this, taken sounds made for one older genre and made a new soundbank that is now supposedly for some new genre hardly anyone one has even heard of, only it's the same sounds. I'm just trying to say why does it really matter? They are good sounds (the pad ones at least) - why limit your market by trying to make out they are just for some niche?

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aMUSEd wrote:The point is they would also fit a lot of other 'genres' too. I've never even listened to goa trance and haven't a clue what psybient is but I use these sort of sounds all the time. I just think it's crazy that people always seem to want to label sounds and stake a claim to them being for a particular kind (invariably their favourite kind) of music when people have been using similar sounds in all sorts of synth based music since synths were invented. It's like a dog marking its territory, but art is all about breaking out of boxes, not jumping into them.
Yes, absolutely diversion is good for other genres, I'm most certainly not arguing that fact. If you don't really know the genre then it is impossible to get what we are alluding to. For instance, for psy bass, it is really imperative to have extremely snappy envelopes to fine tune around the 16th note scale or the bass just won't fit. Some people say Cronox for instance is the psy trance synth for bass period because it nailed the sound of psy bass with its snappy envelopes. Yes you can say that cronox can be used for other genres just fine and do an an average job ( I mean, its not a raved about synth) but for psy, it will bring to the table a lot more. Similarly, diversion, while it can suit other genres quite well, a goa-psy artist might get slightly better mileage, or at least is able to take it farther in that direction than possible with other synths.
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aMUSEd wrote:Sorry you're missing the point, I get that you can make whatever this is called with these sounds, but you could take the same sounds and make lots of other types of music too, maybe a bit faster or slower or whatever. Sound is just sound, it doesn't belong to particular genres. In 2 years time I am certain that another person will be making very similar sounds and claiming they belong to whatever genre is currently in fashion too. In fact I can point you to a thread where someone has done just this, taken sounds made for one older genre and made a new soundbank that is now supposedly for some new genre hardly anyone one has even heard of, only it's the same sounds. I'm just trying to say why does it really matter? They are good sounds (the pad ones at least) - why limit your market by trying to make out they are just for some niche?
I didn't intend to reply to your comment with that demo, but it sounded that way a little when I alluded to it not being a demo showcasing the leads I was talking about. Maybe read my above response to get a more suitable reply? Cheers
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Touch The Universe wrote:If you don't really know the genre then it is impossible to get what we are alluding to. For instance, for psy bass, it is really imperative to have extremely snappy envelopes to fine tune around the 16th note scale or the bass just won't fit. Some people say Cronox for instance is the psy trance synth for bass period because it nailed the sound of psy bass with its snappy envelopes. Yes you can say that cronox can be used for other genres just fine and do an an average job ( I mean, its not a raved about synth) but for psy, it will bring to the table a lot more.
This is my point, a bass with a snappy envelope may be very suitable for 'psy trance' but there were basses with snappy envelopes long before anyone had even decided to make up some genre called psy trance. So while I do get what you are saying, that this particular type of sound is suitable for that genre, and in fact possibly even helped define it, that doesn't make a bass with a snappy envelope a psy trance sound, any more than the pads and leads you are demoing are 'psybient' sounds. They just happen to be sounds used by you to make that sort of music, but many of us have been managing just fine to make all sorts of music with the same sort of sounds without having even heard of these genres. I guess it just seems a bit arrogant to me to be laying claim to them like this, sorry but it just bugs me a bit and I'll shut up now :) I probably will buy your bank as long as it's affordable, it does sound nice. :)

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Touch The Universe wrote:If you don't really know the genre then it is impossible to get what we are alluding to. For instance, for psy bass, it is really imperative to have extremely snappy envelopes to fine tune around the 16th note scale or the bass just won't fit. Some people say Cronox for instance is the psy trance synth for bass period because it nailed the sound of psy bass with its snappy envelopes. Yes you can say that cronox can be used for other genres just fine and do an an average job ( I mean, its not a raved about synth) but for psy, it will bring to the table a lot more.
This is my point, a bass with a snappy envelope may be very suitable for 'psy trance' but there were basses with snappy envelopes long before anyone had even decided to make up some genre called psy trance. So while I do get what you are saying, that this particular type of sound is suitable for that genre, and in fact possibly even helped define it, that doesn't make a bass with a snappy envelope a psy trance sound, any more than the pads and leads you are demoing are 'psybient' sounds. They just happen to be sounds used by you to make that sort of music, but many of us have been managing just fine to make all sorts of music with the same sort of sounds without having even heard of these genres. I guess it just seems a bit arrogant to me to be laying claim to them like this, sorry but it just bugs me a bit and I'll shut up now :) I probably will buy your bank as long as it's affordable, it does sound nice. :)
Okay, fair enough :wink: I guess I could see how that could get annoying a bit, and indeed is a fact that most of the bank can be used for any type of music really. Maybe I should reconsider the whole genre labelling thing and just use broader terms like electronic music or edm, with minor footnotes to the other obscure genres.

Here is an idea of what I'm refering to as a psy trance type of lead which kinda defies classification in any other normal sense. :lol: Everything was made using presets - including the drums. Also this is is not really close to a goa trance type of lead which I think has a different feel. I will post lots of examples of those soon and with great anticipation.

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... d-psy-demo

Also, thank you very much for your kind words :) It makes me very happy to hear your interest in it the sound set. As far as pricing goes, I haven't really reached that stage yet. I still have to finish my website and do a few other odd and ends before I finalize things as far as pricing (especially since I'm not sure how many patches it'll have). I don't intend to make it costly, atleast in my opinion, but if for whatever reason the price is off putting, just shoot me a pm and I'm sure we can work something out :tu:
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Here's a shorter cleaner mix of the above, can't really tell which one is better :hihi:

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... -psy-seq-2
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Pulled a second all nighter in a row. Streamed lots of good stuff last night but was too tired to upload them -- will get around to it soon. From this nights session - a really love ambient soundscape in a synthesized jungle.
All sounds made in one patch from the upcoming soundset. The jungle bird sound is entirely synthesized. Cool Stuff! Made by assigning a bell comb filter with high resonance to a mseg and assigning the rate to and x y pad.

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... t-jungle-1
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Here are two more similar ones that have the comb filter assigned to an mseg. With high resonation settings, its possible to create a pseudo sequencer.

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... e-melody-3

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... gle-melody
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Increased the volume of this one on soundcloud - it was a little too quite :D .

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... t-jungle-1
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Made a lot of progressive again tonight. Here is a Goa Monk Gate type of Lead.

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... rmant-gate
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Here are two more key patches of the classic sine of a sine and brown noise ring modulated - with a twist of course - with some nice reverse echoes.

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... -reverse-2

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... ey-reverse
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What's up guys, I'm very excited to say that the sound bank is finally finished, after over a month of love, devotion, and countless hours of exploring and tweaking every patch to sonic perfection :D It's actually been mostly complete about a few days ago, but I'm in the midst of finalizing my website and arranging everything else tied to that. I just have to create a video, and upload some lead example patches. I am also working on a full track demo version, which might take a little while longer to complete.

That said, it will release with roughly 200 patches. Haven't decided on a price tag yet, though :)

Here is the near final batch of audio demo, showcasing some leads, keys, and some awesome vocal patches.

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... ute-oboe-6

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... ant-monk-5

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... ant-monk-4

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... y-lunarian

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... nsional-12
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I finally got around to increasing the time limit with youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubFYLpT ... e=youtu.be

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Creating a patch from scratch for the serene horizon sound bank that will be released soon. If you follow along you will see a method to save cpu of up to 90% on a patch, which is good since its a killer cpu synth. I used the stream to wave function directly into an oscillator. The trick is to record a single note with as much detune as you want, then turn it off once you stream the single note into an oscillator. Which you can then play chords with, add more effects and modulations, etc.

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