ReSpire?

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skaibluemusic
KVRer
27 posts since 14 Oct, 2015

Post Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:15 am

What exactly is ReSpire? I haven't found much information about it. Also, I see a link to it from here, but not on your official website. Why?

Thank you.

chk071
KVRAF
18153 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:20 am

ReSpire is Spire for Propellerhead Reason, in the native Reason plugin format, rack extension. The reason why you don't see it on Reveal-Sound's website is probably that it is only being distributed through Propellerhead's shop, just like all other rack extensions. ReSpire is exactly the same as the Spire VST, it just will get some additional functionality, to make it work with the Reason internal routing options. Apart from that, functionality is the same.

stepBacker
KVRer
2 posts since 31 May, 2017

Re: ReSpire?

Post Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:20 am

Will it ever be finished?

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vega555
KVRist
241 posts since 10 May, 2009

Re: ReSpire?

Post Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:13 am

Our engineers are doing their best to release new version as soon as possible. Unfortunately, the update will take some more time than we expected. Thank you for understanding :)

v1o
KVRian
1357 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Re: ReSpire?

Post Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:44 am

Thanks for the new update. Hopefully you will eventually implement drop down menus and CV inputs for modulation.
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tony10000
KVRist
235 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: ReSpire?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:43 am

Any future updates to ReSpire planned?

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vega555
KVRist
241 posts since 10 May, 2009

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:43 am

Our work on improvements does not stop:

Spire code was originally written for the VST and AU platforms.

Propellerhead Reason users always asked us to port Spire, so we could not refuse, mistakenly believing that the platforms are similar. It turned out that Reason has a number of limitations, which ultimately impacted the ported version.

It could be possible to speed up the work by reducing the accuracy - but in this case, the sound could be unidentical to the VST version, which is not acceptable.

We chose an alternative path and decided to rewrite the code from scratch again, taking into account the Reason limitations. This process is not at all simple, and upon completion, we will get Spire 2.0 and ReSpire 2.0, where both platforms will get greater performance and new features.

At the moment, we offer all ReSpire owners a discount for Spire VST purchase. Just write us to support@reveal-sound.com.

Thanks for understanding.

tony10000
KVRist
235 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:56 am

I certainly understand the limitations and challenges of the platform. I was just wondering whether or not development would continue. As I also own the VST version of Spire, I am good.

Thanks for providing this information.

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EnochLight
KVRian
1126 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:57 am

vega555 wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:43 am
Our work on improvements does not stop:

Spire code was originally written for the VST and AU platforms.

Propellerhead Reason users always asked us to port Spire, so we could not refuse, mistakenly believing that the platforms are similar. It turned out that Reason has a number of limitations, which ultimately impacted the ported version.

It could be possible to speed up the work by reducing the accuracy - but in this case, the sound could be unidentical to the VST version, which is not acceptable.

We chose an alternative path and decided to rewrite the code from scratch again, taking into account the Reason limitations. This process is not at all simple, and upon completion, we will get Spire 2.0 and ReSpire 2.0, where both platforms will get greater performance and new features.

At the moment, we offer all ReSpire owners a discount for Spire VST purchase. Just write us to support@reveal-sound.com.

Thanks for understanding.
This is really great news - thanks for updating us. Most Reasoners have thought you guys abandoned the RE, so it's nice to read that you're still working on an update.

Cheers
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Biome_Digital
KVRian
645 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:30 am

Spire 2?? :hyper:

Please give us some ideas. What will it include? Wavetables?

kmonkey
KVRAF
3927 posts since 17 Aug, 2004

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:45 am

I recently discovered Spire. Dunno why i avoid it always. This synth is really good. I like onboard effects and workflow. Reverb is really good for this type of instrument.

I tried VST but since i am Reason user i bought and prefer Rack Extension solely for workflow. Their web based patch converter is also icing the cake.

Seeing that developers of this product have even more under the table and future optimization - gives me warm feeling about this company.

Good luck with future update development and keep up the good work.

ThomasLehmann
KVRer
18 posts since 14 May, 2004 from ---

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:33 am

yes, thats good news. Hope it will happen sometime this year. Im on RE because Im using Reason and I prefer that format. I dont use vst.
I think the decision to stay at the RE format is a good one, because of the way propellerheads go in future with their RackExtensions and Reason. The partnership with MIND Music Lab could maybe a step forward in future too.
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EnochLight
KVRian
1126 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:56 am

Biome_Digital wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:30 am
Spire 2?? :hyper:

Please give us some ideas. What will it include? Wavetables?
From Reveal Sound's post 4 years ago ( :o ) it looks like long term plans for the VST were/are:

viewtopic.php?p=6059639#p6059639

- Extended preset browser
- Custom wave loading
- Granular sampler OSC mode
- Vowel OSC mode
- New reverberator's types
- New shaper's types
- Filter with Drive Parameter

One can imagine that, according to their post above, it appears as though they plan to keep the RE and the VST the same in 2.0 as far as features go (within the context of Reason, so the "extended preset browser" likely wouldn't apply to the RE, but everything else could)... :party:
  • Presonus Studio One 3.5.x | too many VSTi's to name
  • Windows 10 64-bit | Reason 10.2 | RME Babyface Pro | Nektar Tech Panorama P4 | M-Audio Trigger Finger Pro | too many RE's to name

JamminFool
KVRian
1051 posts since 16 Apr, 2004

Re: ReSpire?

Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:06 am

vega555 wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:43 am
Our work on improvements does not stop:

Spire code was originally written for the VST and AU platforms.

Propellerhead Reason users always asked us to port Spire, so we could not refuse, mistakenly believing that the platforms are similar. It turned out that Reason has a number of limitations, which ultimately impacted the ported version.

It could be possible to speed up the work by reducing the accuracy - but in this case, the sound could be unidentical to the VST version, which is not acceptable.

We chose an alternative path and decided to rewrite the code from scratch again, taking into account the Reason limitations. This process is not at all simple, and upon completion, we will get Spire 2.0 and ReSpire 2.0, where both platforms will get greater performance and new features.

At the moment, we offer all ReSpire owners a discount for Spire VST purchase. Just write us to support@reveal-sound.com.

Thanks for understanding.
Great news! Thanks for this update. I'm really looking forward to this. :)

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Biome_Digital
KVRian
645 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Re: ReSpire?

Post Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:39 am

EnochLight wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:56 am
Biome_Digital wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:30 am
Spire 2?? :hyper:

Please give us some ideas. What will it include? Wavetables?
From Reveal Sound's post 4 years ago ( :o ) it looks like long term plans for the VST were/are:

viewtopic.php?p=6059639#p6059639

- Extended preset browser
- Custom wave loading
- Granular sampler OSC mode
- Vowel OSC mode
- New reverberator's types
- New shaper's types
- Filter with Drive Parameter

One can imagine that, according to their post above, it appears as though they plan to keep the RE and the VST the same in 2.0 as far as features go (within the context of Reason, so the "extended preset browser" likely wouldn't apply to the RE, but everything else could)... :party:
Oh nice, well they added a couple of them already.

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