VCV MI Clouds vs Softube MI Clouds vs Hardware Clouds

[Mushy Mushy]

The road to divorce and financial ruin opens up ....

Well:
a) VSTs are invisible so I'm safe so far;
b) Hardware modules are very small so I can say they're only £50 or so.

[vurt]

partners are over rated.

[lnikj]

The road to divorce and financial ruin opens up ....

Well:
a) VSTs are invisible so I'm safe so far;
b) Hardware modules are very small so I can say they're only £50 or so.

Are you sure you didn't slip up once in the past and say "Yeah, this bit of software cost X but it's OK, if I was into hardware then it would have cost Y (= 10 * X)." ?

Mine would not tolerate the cables. Too messy. She would unplug them and line them up in order of colour every night before she went to bed.

[Mushy Mushy]

Are you sure you didn't slip up once in the past and say "Yeah, this bit of software cost X but it's OK, if I was into hardware then it would have cost Y (= 10 * X)." ?

I did actually. A couple years back I went a bit crazy on Black Friday and super excited I turned around and mentioned "woohoo! I just bought all this software for £XX." The response was " How much is that sh!t normally then?!"

Mine would not tolerate the cables. Too messy. She would unplug them and line them in order of colour every night before she went to bed.

There goes your patch storage. Maybe if you bought the cables all in the same colour there would be (slightly) less incentive.

[SLiC]

Go VCV - it has all the firmware's and its free! What's not to like?

https://vcvrack.com/AudibleInstruments.html

The lack (ATM) of VST support. Yes, there is a workaround but it is a bit of a faff. More so than simply dropping in a plugin.

It currently has supurb VST hosting support (VCV Host 1.0 will also support polyphonic CV, gate, velocity, and aftertouch, MPE etc)

Obviusly the big selling point of V1 (due any time now!) is that it can also be run as a VST plug in so this wont be an issue anymore (I cant find any need to do that myself, to me its like running a DAW in a DAW - I have 500hp or non-virtual eurorack that seems to work quite well without a DAW- thats why I love it!)

FYI- have you seen this for a paradym shift- Real Eurorack modules that control VCV Rack!

https://www.gearnews.com/midilar-modula ... -eurorack/

[lnikj]

It's starting. This ^ is what happens next

You've bought Clouds, then you want an ES-3 or an ES-8 so VCV or Bitwig or whatever can talk to your Clouds, then you put them in a case, then that case looks awfully empty, then .... doomed

[pekbro]

You could get a clone, a small 4ms case with power for around $300 new actually. If the clone is accurate
it supports line level out, so you wouldn't need anything else.

[lnikj]

You could get a clone, a small 4ms case with power for around $300 new actually. If the clone is accurate
it supports line level out, so you wouldn't need anything else.

Where's the fun in that?

[Mushy Mushy]

It currently has supurb VST hosting support (VCV Host 1.0 will also support polyphonic CV, gate, velocity, and aftertouch, MPE etc)

Yes, but I want it the other way around. I don't really have a use for VCV rack as the host.

Obviusly the big selling point of V1 (due any time now!) is that it can also be run as a VST plug in so this wont be an issue anymore (I cant find any need to do that myself, to me its like running a DAW in a DAW - I have 500hp or non-virtual eurorack that seems to work quite well without a DAW- thats why I love it!)

I am aware this is imminent but I do need a solution now for a current project. Don't get me wrong I love VCV, but in terms of ease of use (for my application) Softube is miles ahead (currently).

Re a DAW within a DAW: I don't agree. I use many synths with internal sequencers in my DAW currently so I don't see a difference. Besides my current application requires only Clouds as a reverb unit.

FYI- have you seen this for a paradym shift- Real Eurorack modules that control VCV Rack!

https://www.gearnews.com/midilar-modula ... -eurorack/

Great invention and technology but if you already have the skiff just fill it with hardware If you want a controller just use one of the other thousand already out there. YMMV obviously.

[Mushy Mushy]

It's starting. This ^ is what happens next

You've bought Clouds, then you want an ES-3 or an ES-8 so VCV or Bitwig or whatever can talk to your Clouds, then you put them in a case, then that case looks awfully empty, then .... doomed

I am already peering into that rabbit hole yes

[Mushy Mushy]

You could get a clone, a small 4ms case with power for around $300 new actually. If the clone is accurate
it supports line level out, so you wouldn't need anything else.

As mentioned above I already have my next units lined up so sadly I am doomed and a small case will simply be false economy.

[pekbro]

You could get a clone, a small 4ms case with power for around $300 new actually. If the clone is accurate
it supports line level out, so you wouldn't need anything else.

As mentioned above I already have my next units lined up so sadly I am doomed and a small case will simply be false economy.

Heh, it's not so bad *The whole Eurorack thing...

[dave dove]

max for live versions:
http://www.timorozendal.nl/?cat=11

dave

[SLiC]

It currently has supurb VST hosting support (VCV Host 1.0 will also support polyphonic CV, gate, velocity, and aftertouch, MPE etc)

Yes, but I want it the other way around. I don't really have a use for VCV rack as the host.

Obviusly the big selling point of V1 (due any time now!) is that it can also be run as a VST plug in so this wont be an issue anymore (I cant find any need to do that myself, to me its like running a DAW in a DAW - I have 500hp or non-virtual eurorack that seems to work quite well without a DAW- thats why I love it!)

I am aware this is imminent but I do need a solution now for a current project. Don't get me wrong I love VCV, but in terms of ease of use (for my application) Softube is miles ahead (currently).

Re a DAW within a DAW: I don't agree. I use many synths with internal sequencers in my DAW currently so I don't see a difference. Besides my current application requires only Clouds as a reverb unit.

FYI- have you seen this for a paradym shift- Real Eurorack modules that control VCV Rack!

https://www.gearnews.com/midilar-modula ... -eurorack/

Great invention and technology but if you already have the skiff just fill it with hardware If you want a controller just use one of the other thousand already out there. YMMV obviously.

If you want clouds in a DAW you could just go for this - https://www.audiority.com/shop/grainspace/
Sounds as good as clouds to me (I have the hardware) and in many ways is better!

[Mushy Mushy]

If you want clouds in a DAW you could just go for this - https://www.audiority.com/shop/grainspace/
Sounds as good as clouds to me (I have the hardware) and in many ways is better!

Thanks for that, I'll check it out