Slick EQ - Mimic a Pultec
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 90 posts since 6 Nov, 2017
Any tips for setting the low shelf and mid band frequency to mimic the Pultec boost and attenuate trick? I'm thinking that British mode is the best due to it's ability to mid scoop.
- KVRian
- 698 posts since 7 Dec, 2009 from GWB
Interesting thought experiment. I don't have Pultec hardware, but matched Black Rooster's VEQ-1P to Slick in Plugin Doctor. Pultec set at 60cps, +6dB boost and -6dB cut. Seemed like the "American" setting of Slick's had a bit broader character than "British". With deeper cuts though, it may be that the Proportional Q of the American style gets more narrow than you'd want. Slick settings: LS 267Hz at +4.9dB, Mid 627Hz at -5.3dB. 'Course your ears will always be the better judge of what you want.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 90 posts since 6 Nov, 2017
Thank you! This is more than I expected.cturner wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:56 am Interesting thought experiment. I don't have Pultec hardware, but matched Black Rooster's VEQ-1P to Slick in Plugin Doctor. Pultec set at 60cps, +6dB boost and -6dB cut. Seemed like the "American" setting of Slick's had a bit broader character than "British". With deeper cuts though, it may be that the Proportional Q of the American style gets more narrow than you'd want. Slick settings: LS 267Hz at +4.9dB, Mid 627Hz at -5.3dB. 'Course your ears will always be the better judge of what you want.
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One question, is 60cps on the Pultec not equal to 60 hz? Slick is set much higher at 267 hz.
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- KVRian
- 872 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
oh, no, cps definitely is equal to hz, it's just the way the attenuate and boost shelves of the eqp-1a interact with each other. the result of their intersection—that weird cancellation node where the signal dips—travels a good distance up the frequency spectrum
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- KVRist
- 444 posts since 18 Feb, 2019
I found this Boz Digital Labs video on Pultec EQ very informative https://youtu.be/eJq9y0ClwRg
- KVRian
- 1403 posts since 30 Mar, 2014
Hey, that was a great video, thank you for sharing. Now I know.GusGranite wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:20 am I found this Boz Digital Labs video on Pultec EQ very informative https://youtu.be/eJq9y0ClwRg
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- KVRian
- 872 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
HUH. Wow, there you go. I kinda THOUGHT it had something to do with two different signals messing with each others' phases—I had no idea how, though.
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
Imho, you can't emulate the Pultec EQP1a with the eq curve shape alone .... it just doesn't sound 'alive' ...
I have heard a real EQP-1A, I've heard some good emulations (not all, I want to try the new UAD one, currently using the Black Rooster one and it sounds very good) ... in rest, it simply just doesn't 'sound' right ... maybe it's the THD and/or it achieves those curves differently, I don't know... it's suppose to be a 'passive' eq, so it only cuts?! to achieve that shape?
I have heard a real EQP-1A, I've heard some good emulations (not all, I want to try the new UAD one, currently using the Black Rooster one and it sounds very good) ... in rest, it simply just doesn't 'sound' right ... maybe it's the THD and/or it achieves those curves differently, I don't know... it's suppose to be a 'passive' eq, so it only cuts?! to achieve that shape?
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
for example... from my tests there seems to be a 'night and day' difference from the BlackRooster one vs the one that comes with Ozone 8... the later is just 'inert', it's just the 'shape' and nothing else.... it's not alive, I don't feel it... it's only EQ curves..
Try several emulations vs shapes from standard eq... do a null test to try to cancel to get the shape and then AB..
Try several emulations vs shapes from standard eq... do a null test to try to cancel to get the shape and then AB..
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy
Modelling the shape will only get you so far in sounding like a real Pultec.
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- KVRist
- 444 posts since 18 Feb, 2019
This is interesting as well: https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/pulte ... d-samples/