Sell & Buy (+Special Offers, Deals & Promos) Organisation

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faun2500
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1353 posts since 27 Nov, 2008 from uk

Post Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:29 am

whyterabbyt wrote:Buying/Selling Discussion : main parent (feedback thread, user-based discussions etc)
* Buying/Selling Plugins : sub-forum (as it says)
* Buying/Selling Other Software : sub-forum (as it says)
* Buying/Selling Samples and Presets : sub-forum (as it says)
* Buying/Selling Hardware : sub-forum (as it says)
* Promotions and Sales : sub-forum (vendor/dealer/company notices and announcements)

Oh, and for gawd's sake please make it mandatory that people who are working for companies and therefore involved in promoting them must must admit that in some way when posting about products they're involved with, either in the text body, or permanently have that indicated in their sig, avatar, or whatever.
This all sounds like a good idea. :clap:
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vurt
addled muppet weed
50358 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:19 am

can we hurry up with this, its like war of the sound designers in the instruments forum at the minute.
or at least lock their threads and tell them to wait!

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Teksonik
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12662 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:37 am

Compyfox wrote:The OP is ruled out to bump within 24 hours, but he can still answer to questions, since this is not a "bump" per se. But if he's reposting again just to "bump" within the limit - then he'd get an info "not allowed".
Again, something like that can be set up with modern boards.
The OP can only repost after someone else has posted ? So "hey buddy can you post in my thread to bump it please?" will never happen ? If people are misbehaving enough to warrant changes now then I imagine they will contiune to misbehave in other ways as well......
Compyfox wrote:And a change of the Market Place does make sense.
Especially considering the flood of "sale" threads from companies, while others simply want to get their private stuff sold.
Also, have you seen how many pinned threads we have by now?
I'm not opposed to marketplace subforums but I've not seen enough problems to make bumping that big of a deal. Pinned threads are the fault of the forum admins not the members right ?
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ThomasHelzle
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5348 posts since 9 Dec, 2008 from Berlin

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:55 am

I honestly never had a problem with how it was before.

Some overeager devs or sellers every now and then, but overall I found it easy to deal with:
- If I look for something specific, I can use the search.
- If I just look around to see what's up, I prefer not having to go to several subforums since currently I might stumble upon something interesting I didn't look for.
- I don't see the need for the 48 hour limit. 24 hours seems long enough for me to dampen the overeagers without making it too slow to get noticed or find things.
- Since I personally found most of my sales items in the Posts-Ticker on the right by more or less accident, I wouldn't remove the sales stuff from there.

Conclusion: just leave it as it is ;-)

Invest the free time in a dark Forum theme instead so my eyes can heal.

Cheers,

Tom
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Sampleconstruct
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14796 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:07 am

Quoting Ben from the other thread:
Ben (KVR) wrote: I'm leaning towards a Market Place category (below the Main Forums and above the Off Topic forums), rather than subforums now.

Buy & Sell (All Private Sales ONLY)
Product Announcements, Sales & Promotions (All Commercial Soundware, Plugins & Apps, incl. Group Buys)
Competitions, Contests & Giveaways
Services For Sale
Member Music Releases (For Sale)

The main forums (instruments, effects, etc.) were originally intended to be for users to discuss plug-ins, not as places for sales pitches, so this would move sales topics to their own forum.

Compyfox
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14333 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:19 am

Teksonik wrote:The OP can only repost after someone else has posted ? So "hey buddy can you post in my thread to bump it please?" will never happen ? If people are misbehaving enough to warrant changes now then I imagine they will contiune to misbehave in other ways as well......
*sigh* Always questioning everything.
Look - of course this system can be "evaded" - but look at the market place section. Most of the time, the comments "here it's being avialable cheaper" is pretty rare, same with the "you're not allowed to sell it".

It can work, and it actually does work on GS. Why shouldn't it on KVR?
Teksonik wrote:I'm not opposed to marketplace subforums but I've not seen enough problems to make bumping that big of a deal. Pinned threads are the fault of the forum admins not the members right ?
Pinned threads make sense. Only the ammount is a bit much. Then again, ton if important info in there that would otherwise vanish in the auto truncation system.

THis is why I wrote to have a "root" folder with all rules and pinned stuff, and the rest should be in subfolders.
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Ben [KVR]
Mr KVR
1296 posts since 23 Oct, 2000 from Newport Pagnell, UK
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Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:42 am

For now I've decided to go for the simple option. I've added the oft-requested Soundware forum, which is intended to be used for all discussion about and announcements for soundware.

The Instruments and MP forums should hopefully then revert back to what it they were originally intended for - discussion about instrument apps and plug-ins / private sales and periodic special offers (not product announcements and intro offers)

Zoundsangelfire
KVRer
4 posts since 20 Oct, 2004

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:37 pm

i like the idea of good clear filtering system so you can have as little or as much on your feed as possible, more power to filtering and everyone gets to setup how they like things

re8
KVRist
304 posts since 3 Nov, 2007 from Earth, USA, CO, Denver

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Mon May 05, 2014 3:55 pm

Astralp wrote:I'd rather they were like Filters to zero in on your interest.
I like the filer/mother forum idea also. Sub-folders are OK, but I'd rather have a tagging system.

fluffy_little_something
KVRAF
12921 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:23 am

I think it would make sense to have three categories: FS, FT and WTB. Currently it is all mixed in one, which is a bit messy...

And maybe it would also make sense to separate private from commercial offers.
Last edited by fluffy_little_something on Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:36 am, edited 1 time in total.

budweiser
KVRian
1025 posts since 14 Oct, 2006 from france

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:34 am

ThomasHelzle wrote:I honestly never had a problem with how it was before.

Some overeager devs or sellers every now and then, but overall I found it easy to deal with:
- If I look for something specific, I can use the search.
- If I just look around to see what's up, I prefer not having to go to several subforums since currently I might stumble upon something interesting I didn't look for.
- I don't see the need for the 48 hour limit. 24 hours seems long enough for me to dampen the overeagers without making it too slow to get noticed or find things.
- Since I personally found most of my sales items in the Posts-Ticker on the right by more or less accident, I wouldn't remove the sales stuff from there.

Conclusion: just leave it as it is ;-)

Invest the free time in a dark Forum theme instead so my eyes can heal.

Cheers,

Tom
I totally agree with this post. Even the 48h rule is not a good thing, imo.

budweiser
KVRian
1025 posts since 14 Oct, 2006 from france

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:36 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:I think it would make sense to have three categories: FS, FT and WTB. Currently it is all mixed in one, which is a bit messy...
And what if i want to sell OR trade the same thing ? Two posts ?

fluffy_little_something
KVRAF
12921 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:43 am

budweiser wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I think it would make sense to have three categories: FS, FT and WTB. Currently it is all mixed in one, which is a bit messy...
And what if i want to sell OR trade the same thing ? Two posts ?
How about only two categories: WTH (Want to have) and HTO (Have to offer) or WTGRO (Want to get rid of) :hihi:

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Fleer
KVRAF
4487 posts since 23 Aug, 2014 from Boston/Cambridge

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Tue May 17, 2016 11:46 am

Would be great if we could separately view new offers ('Dailies') and/or offers with lowered prices, indeed separated from mere "bumps". This would allow those who regularly check this thread, to quickly view new content.

shadowdancerbnr
KVRist
76 posts since 5 Apr, 2010

Re: Market Place Organisation

Post Thu May 19, 2016 2:49 am

Haven't been on here for a couple of months but my selling thread seems to have been removed. Is there any way it can be traced as not only can I not recall every license I was selling, but it also contained a list of everything I sold over the previous 6 months....

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