Thank you, that's good to know.cleverr1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:01 pmI contacted them when looking for a DAW laptop. I asked about DPC latency performance. They replied saying it’s something they don’t normally test.cptgone wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:36 am I googled "DAW PC" and found a brand I hadn't heard of: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/pro-audio-computers/.
Prebuilt DAW PCs
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8997 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
Those Scan PCs seem just the thing. I'm in Belgium though. I haven't been well, but I'm gonna try and get my Dell sorted first. Thanks all for your helpful input.
-
- KVRAF
- 1929 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
I can't speak for anywhere else but we charge the same margins on our gaming systems as we do our workstations. Admittedly, our gaming systems come in a bit more than your bottom end box shifters, but we also stand behind every part we use and list them publicly so you know we're not cutting corners. We don't tend to cheap out simply to reduce the system price bottom line, the parts should be right.Reefius wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:28 am I'm not a gamer, but I bought a gaming PC with an Intel i7 8700 in it at about the same price as a prebuilt DAW PC with an Intel i5 CPU. Most of these prebuilt DAW PC's are quite overpriced because they are aimed at professionals, but the hardware inside is exactly the same as in a consumer PC.
I will note, however, that in the audio-specific range I don't use some of the cheaper core components that you find in all our gaming ranges, so yes... that would make them more expensive.
The reason being is that I use the more costly hardware either because the cheaper stuff isn't suitable due to DPC/driver issues, or because the more expensive unit has proven to be more reliable as I'm far, far stricter with my return rates than the gaming guys are. Industry rates for component fails say that anything less than 3% is superb and the gamer system guys tend to work on 3% or better. I work on 1.5% or better because Pro users who use it all day tend to be a lot more pissed off when a system goes down than someone who only uses it to play Fortnite for a few hours in the evening.
Aye, that's the value add from a proper DAW builder, we know what we're doing!cleverr1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:01 pmI contacted them when looking for a DAW laptop. I asked about DPC latency performance. They replied saying it’s something they don’t normally test.cptgone wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:36 am I googled "DAW PC" and found a brand I hadn't heard of: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/pro-audio-computers/.
PCS specifically, they tend to be a great workstation systems company if you want to build a render farm and I have a lot of respect for what they do in other segments, but given they now advertise a "DAW" range, that response should shock me and honestly, by this stage, it really doesn't.
In general, I noted that after we entered the DAW market just over a decade ago now, a number of our computer system providing competitors followed suit, launching ranges that often aped, if not completely reproducing the specs that I publish.
This often makes me chuckle because I know for sure that a good few of them wouldn't have the knowledge to carry out the testing and tweaking we do here, it does make me wonder how some of their support phone calls go.
The difference I think is that I'm an audio guy with a decade worth of live and recording experience who then retrained into networking and ended up here. As opposed to a systems guy who's trying to predict what you need to make it work for audio without having spent their youth screaming abuse at DAW screen BSODs... or more accurately, cussing when someone kicked the midi cable off the back of the Atari!
Cptgone - good luck with the Dell resolve, but should it come down to it and you do wish to have a chat with us, feel free to hit me up on here as it saves dealing the sales desk.
- KVRAF
- 1561 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
I've been using systems from i4 (Eye4 Systems) for many years. Great service, the best systems. Not cheap but having that personalized (and Dutch speaking) support is really important to me. Highly recommended.cptgone wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:36 am Long ago I got a rack mount DAW PC from a Dutch shop, https://www.i4-muzique.nl/ - but due to work and my adopting cats I hardly ever used it.
Any experiences, thoughts, recommendations?
More BPM please
-
- KVRAF
- 2805 posts since 22 Mar, 2006 from cornwall
I’ve got a high spec Scan i9 9900K system being built at the moment which should be here in a few days.
-
- KVRian
- 1195 posts since 25 Sep, 2002
Lush, I occasionally window shop there!dickiefunk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:28 pm I’ve got a high spec Scan i9 9900K system being built at the moment which should be here in a few days.
Good luck with integrating it into your workstream, please keep us posted about how things work out.
-
- KVRAF
- 2805 posts since 22 Mar, 2006 from cornwall
Sure will dodon1thedon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:12 amLush, I occasionally window shop there!dickiefunk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:28 pm I’ve got a high spec Scan i9 9900K system being built at the moment which should be here in a few days.
Good luck with integrating it into your workstream, please keep us posted about how things work out.
-
- KVRist
- 276 posts since 4 Oct, 2014
-
- KVRAF
- 1929 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
Yeah, I don't think I can argue that point...
-
- KVRAF
- 1819 posts since 10 Mar, 2004
I purchased a SCAN 3XS PowerDaw in 2009 with an Intel i7 920 and it's still rock solid today.
I would like to purchase an up to date spec in the next year or two and I wouldn't go anywhere else but Scan but for now, my old ten year 3XS system will serve me well.
I would like to purchase an up to date spec in the next year or two and I wouldn't go anywhere else but Scan but for now, my old ten year 3XS system will serve me well.