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Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:27 am
cnt wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:03 am I'm waiting for my 3950x, will be running with 3600MHz RAM CAS 17. Each day the supplier changes the delivery date.... I did order at the 25th of Nov at exactly one minute past release time.....
It's out of stock everywhere except one store pushing it for 1100 euros..
cnt ... do you mind me asking where you sourced your 3600MHz RAM CAS 17 and what motherboard you settled on for your 3950x (whenever it is available?) I am also looking at this configuration.
I got myself the ASUS Prime X570-P. It apperently got the best VRMs in the price range, it's even as good as the ASUS Premium models. I don't want/need WIFI, USB-C or Thunderbolt. Only want stability and as quiet as possible, so this board got everything I need. The small chipset fan is also quite silent from what I have read.
Here's the Hardware Unboxed's thermal testing review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PkZwY9PWM

Memory I ordered: G.Skill TridentZ Series DDR4 2x16 GB 3600 MHz/PC4-28800 CL17 (Model#: F4-3600C17Q-32GTZ) from ComputerSalg.dk. It's on ASUS' tested Memory list for the motherboard.
Both Amazon.co.uk and Newegg got them as well from what I can see.
https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-TridentZ ... B01DQ5UGYU

Will recieve the memory tomorrow. Still waiting for the 3950x, 12th of Dec they say now.. :(

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Hi there!

Looking to build a new PC, since my old i5 4690k cant cut it anymore, and I am going with a ryzen CPU, most likely the 3700x or maybe even possibly the 3900x.

I have a question about motherboards, I see that there is a lot of extensive conversation about this topic here already so I might as well ask for some advice on what motherboard to get.

My priorities are stability, at least one tb3 port and fan noise. Price isn't really a problem as long as its reasonable although obviously, the cheaper the better :wink:

I am a bit interested in maybe doing a hackintosh build, because I am sick and tired of how buggy windows core audio is, thought maybe a ryzen hackintosh would be even buggier? If anyone here knows about this subject I would be grateful for any info!

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Isn't Windows audio bypassed when you use ASIO?

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e-crooner wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:14 pm Isn't Windows audio bypassed when you use ASIO?
Unless you do a new build that needs Asio4All, it will be, yes! If you're going to build a PC for Audio, you want to start by choosing a good audio card - i.e. one with good ASIO support, so you don't need any Windows Audio support.

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Even when using ASIO4ALL problematic Windows audio components seem to be bypassed. I haven't had any problems with it so far.

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Sorry, I think I worded that incorrectly, I just meant that I am tired of how windows handles audio in general, how some drivers can cause latency, and just the bugginess in general. Since I have upgraded to the Babyface pro, it has been a lot better, but it isn't perfect.

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Any thoughts on the MSI Creation series motherboards? Legit or gimmick?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X399-CREATION

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The only interesting Threadripper motherboards are the Gigabyte TRX40 series
because they are the only ones with Thunderbolt header.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/AMD-TRX40

The TRX40 DESIGNARE comes with the TB add-on card
https://youtu.be/59svND1ZtXI

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I'm looking into putting together a desktop PC. Considering the 3600X, 3700X and 9600K. CPU benchmarks show that the 9600K and 3700X are pretty similar https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/I ... 4031vs4043 but the 3700X is maybe 20% more expensive. The 9600K performs better than the comparable 3600X at about the same cost. On the other had, scanproaudio shows the 9600K performing the worst. However, I notice that in the scanaudio tests the CPU are overclocked. So I'm wondering if the audio gains between these CPU would hold true if they were not overclocked.

I haven't bothered to overclock a CPU in many years. It used to be that we had to very carefully choose our memory, which often came with a premium price, if we wanted to overclock reliably. My second question then is, if we were to overclock these cpu from roughly 3.4GHz to 4.4GHz, how careful do we need to be with memory selection? Can we just get the ram recommended by the CPU manufacturer?

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So I have found a new 3950x for £600, about £150 cheaper than normal, but still £200 more expensive than a 3900x.

Do you guys reckon it is worth getting he 3950x? Is the jump in performance worth the £200?

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modii wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:30 pm So I have found a new 3950x for £600, about £150 cheaper than normal, but still £200 more expensive than a 3900x.

Do you guys reckon it is worth getting he 3950x? Is the jump in performance worth the £200?
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/A ... 4057vs4044

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e-crooner wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:14 pm
modii wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:30 pm So I have found a new 3950x for £600, about £150 cheaper than normal, but still £200 more expensive than a 3900x.

Do you guys reckon it is worth getting he 3950x? Is the jump in performance worth the £200?
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/A ... 4057vs4044
That shows performance for only 1 core, not the whole CPU.
Seems like that benchmark result doesn't show results from more than 8 cores by default.
That is totally misleading. It's like measuring the top speed of a car with a V8 engine, but only using ONE cylinder when doing the benchmark. Add 64 cores to the column and see the new results, still looks weird. From what I can measure with my own 3950x vs others I don't trust the result from userbenchmark a bit.

Take a look at this benchmark instead:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

or this, my 3950x gets 11000 point on the CPU-Z test.
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/16

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I think the two processors scale pretty neatly, the two 64-Core entries on the page I had linked show that.
The 12-core version has a higher base clock, which might help with single-core oriented applications. But the 4 additional cores of the 16-core version are worth it when running highly multi-threaded applications, which included computer music I suppose.

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Threadripper didn't work for me here, I cover it in the other thread. I'd certainly be interested to hear if anyone else gets any further.

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Ah, the tests for 2020 are out. Huge thanks!
I'm glad I went for Ryzen 3950x. I usually wait for daw benchmarks.. turns out I did the right choice anyways this time.

http://www.scanproaudio.info/2020/02/27 ... -overview/

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