AMD Ryzen 3rd gen. ZEN 2 processors for audio PC
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- KVRAF
- 3057 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
Wow PC cases don't have mounting for optical drives (dvdrw/CD/bluray) anymore lolz .. I guess it's obsolete ? I'm kind of on the fence about a case I was looking at an realized no DVD 5.25 Bay ? Crazy . Apparently no one uses dvd or cd or Blu-ray ?
- KVRAF
- 7137 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
You can still get an external 5.25" SATA to USB3 (or eSATA if you must) housing. Most people stream everything direct to the telly - PC users are reverting to being a minority group again.
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Not only. It also happens if you have a long chains on send and master, which adds to overall buffer usage. The master chain is only processed by one core, no matter what kind of synths I use.buzz1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:33 pmFair point but nowadays doesn't that only happen if you have huge plug in overhead on a specific track? So nothing to do with track numbers as such.DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:48 am ...but not at 100% load. That's the nature of audio project - longest audio path is the bottleneck for the busiest core, while other cores have nothing left to do.
During mastering I only have a single chain of CPU-hungry plugins
I even bought DVD drive only to install Windows from disk, but it turned out my humble MOBO shares SATA lines with M.2 disk and I was eventually unable to use all of them at once. So now I have only PCIe x4 M.2 drive for system / libraries and RAID10 for safe data storage.Wow PC cases don't have mounting for optical drives (dvdrw/CD/bluray) anymore lolz
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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- KVRAF
- 3368 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Is there a benchmark chart somewhere comparing low latency performance versus Intel in a DAW like Reaper or Cubase? I believe most DAWs are still optimised for Intel chips.
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- KVRist
- 194 posts since 17 Jun, 2002
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- KVRAF
- 1764 posts since 10 Jan, 2018
A number of review sites publish DAW benchmarks. Scan computers do also in their blog; they also sell PCs optimised for audio.
Intel's platforms generally were the best choice but Zen 2 is a turning point maybe.
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- KVRAF
- 3368 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Ok looks like Intel is still on top until they test 3950X and 3980X.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 238 posts since 18 Mar, 2007 from London
As far as raw performance yes, you are right, intel is still on the top but as soon as you start to factor in the price of the processor (+ motherboard compatibility/upgradability) AMD seems to seriously challenge the crown of intel. Looking at the scan test results:
1. The 2 intel chips (9960x and 9940x) clearly beating AMD's 3900x are pretty much 55-60% more expensive than the 3900x so they are not direct competitors;
2. The intel 9900x chip is a good 10% more expensive than the AMD 3900x and under performs it in pretty much every single test result (+ the 3900x has 2 more cores + it's mother boards are priced more attractively.)
I'm still on an intell i7 6800k computer but when it comes to my future build, I'm seriously considering these new AMD alternatives and I'm also eagerly waiting for the 3950X and the 3980X test results.
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- KVRAF
- 3057 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
@ozonepaul exactly everything you just said summed all up . Intel is kind of laughable with what they are charging. And what the test misses on is what amd processor vs what Intel processor are really challenging each other ex. the 3700x was to challenge the 9700k ...... And the 3900x the 9900k not the x or 9940x or 9960x. I haven't built my DAW yet I was thinking 9700k or 3600 or 3700x. I think I'm gonna go with the AMD 3700x still . Intel is laughable with there pricing.
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- KVRAF
- 2945 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Regarding Ryzen , We really do need to see some dawbench scores with high memory frequencies and lower CAS to see if the low latency - CPU performance gap disappears as scanaudio speculated may happen. Then at that point we have to look at total cost including the better and obviously more expensive RAM.