The Wagtunes Corner
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
3rd track from my upcoming CD "The Cool Cat In The Wind"
This song really needs a singer. I'm thinking somebody like a Tony Bennett. I had to pitch correct the hell out of this thing just to get it to sound presentable. I am no jazz singer and it shows.
Son is basically about a guy about to be rubbed out by the mob. Chicago Overcoat is 20s slang for a coffin. The whole CD is going to be a throwback to the 20s, 30s and 40s.
Chicago Overcoat
There's no use running
They will not let you
For you they're gunning
They're gonna get you
So you better get on your Chicago overcoat
They're gonna dump your body right off of that boat
There's no escaping from your fate
It's already way too late
Boy you've got yourself a date
With a Chicago...overcoat
You did the crime man
For that you must pay
You botched up that plan
Now it's your last day
Repeat Chorus
Instrumental Break
Repeat Chorus
You knew they'd get you
Sooner or later
I dared to bet you
Now I got you a gator
Repeat Chorus
Outro
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... o-overcoat
This song really needs a singer. I'm thinking somebody like a Tony Bennett. I had to pitch correct the hell out of this thing just to get it to sound presentable. I am no jazz singer and it shows.
Son is basically about a guy about to be rubbed out by the mob. Chicago Overcoat is 20s slang for a coffin. The whole CD is going to be a throwback to the 20s, 30s and 40s.
Chicago Overcoat
There's no use running
They will not let you
For you they're gunning
They're gonna get you
So you better get on your Chicago overcoat
They're gonna dump your body right off of that boat
There's no escaping from your fate
It's already way too late
Boy you've got yourself a date
With a Chicago...overcoat
You did the crime man
For that you must pay
You botched up that plan
Now it's your last day
Repeat Chorus
Instrumental Break
Repeat Chorus
You knew they'd get you
Sooner or later
I dared to bet you
Now I got you a gator
Repeat Chorus
Outro
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... o-overcoat
- KVRAF
- 6325 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
I thought it might be but I hadn't heard of it before so I discounted that possibility. If your 20s slang is that authentic, you could consider providing a cheat sheet with the lyrics so the audience gets it.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of stuff on this CD that a lot of people aren't going to get. I guess a cheat sheet wouldn't be a bad idea.
- KVRAF
- 1988 posts since 19 Aug, 2008
I'm guessing a Chicago overcoat is some kind of concrete weight that doesn't help when you're tossed in the river!
Being a Brit, I'm not sure. Although I did grow up in a town that was nicknamed "little Chicago".
If its about being dumped in a river, then its a surprisingly upbeat and fun number!
I actually like it, it's quite humourous but nice arrangement and overall well done.
edit: I listened to your two previous songs too. Very good - I wish I could write lyrics like you, thats a real bottleneck for me that slows me down.
Being a Brit, I'm not sure. Although I did grow up in a town that was nicknamed "little Chicago".
If its about being dumped in a river, then its a surprisingly upbeat and fun number!
I actually like it, it's quite humourous but nice arrangement and overall well done.
edit: I listened to your two previous songs too. Very good - I wish I could write lyrics like you, thats a real bottleneck for me that slows me down.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
A Chicago Overcoat is actually a casket. The song is very tongue in cheek and meant to be slightly humorous. I had a lot of fun writing this one. And the Warp IV Brass & Woodwinds libraries have made a HUGE difference in getting that authentic big band sound. Best purchase of the year for me.Bansaw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:55 am I'm guessing a Chicago overcoat is some kind of concrete weight that doesn't help when you're tossed in the river!
Being a Brit, I'm not sure. Although I did grow up in a town that was nicknamed "little Chicago".
If its about being dumped in a river, then its a surprisingly upbeat and fun number!
I actually like it, it's quite humourous but nice arrangement and overall well done.
edit: I listened to your two previous songs too. Very good - I wish I could write lyrics like you, thats a real bottleneck for me that slows me down.
- KVRAF
- 1988 posts since 19 Aug, 2008
Oh ok! ... do you have anything that helps you write lyrics, or does it all come just naturally ?wagtunes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:02 am A Chicago Overcoat is actually a casket. The song is very tongue in cheek and meant to be slightly humorous. I had a lot of fun writing this one. And the Warp IV Brass & Woodwinds libraries have made a HUGE difference in getting that authentic big band sound. Best purchase of the year for me.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Yes, I do have something that helps write lyrics. I've been doing it for 42 years. And it's STILL the hardest thing in the world for me. Lyric writing is 100 times harder than writing music. It's what dooms most pop songs from ever getting recorded. Not the music. The lyrics. That was my biggest problem in the early years. All the publishers told me the same thing. Your music's fine but the lyrics are weak. Melodies are a dime a dozen. We're looking for a strong lyric.Bansaw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:18 amOh ok! ... do you have anything that helps you write lyrics, or does it all come just naturally ?wagtunes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:02 am A Chicago Overcoat is actually a casket. The song is very tongue in cheek and meant to be slightly humorous. I had a lot of fun writing this one. And the Warp IV Brass & Woodwinds libraries have made a HUGE difference in getting that authentic big band sound. Best purchase of the year for me.
Listen to country songs. The lyrics (at least the old songs) were really great. Lyrics today, for the most part, aren't as great as they were years ago because the attention span of today's generation isn't what it was years ago. Music today is disposable. Something to listen to while you're texting your friends. Nobody sits down and actually turns on the stereo and listens to a record or a CD anymore.
But that's enough rambling about that. I could go on about the music industry all day and it wouldn't change anything anyway.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
4th track from my upcoming CD "The Cool Cat In The Wind".
I really love the bass line on this one. And the Warp IV libraries are just amazing. I've never come close to getting this kind of sound before.
Sweet Patootie
Hey there girl
You got the look that just drives me crazy
Rock my world
Baby doll you're fresh as a daisy
So let's go
You're coming with me to the show
You're running with me don't you know
You'll always be my
Main squeeze gal cause you're a cutie
And you'll always be my sweet patootie
Hey there girl
You got the look that's one in a million
Rock my world
Let me take you to the cotillion
Repeat Chorus
We can make it together
Let us make it forever
Let us take it wherever it wants to go
Cause I love you so
Repeat Verse 1
Repeat Chorus
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim/sweet-patootie
I really love the bass line on this one. And the Warp IV libraries are just amazing. I've never come close to getting this kind of sound before.
Sweet Patootie
Hey there girl
You got the look that just drives me crazy
Rock my world
Baby doll you're fresh as a daisy
So let's go
You're coming with me to the show
You're running with me don't you know
You'll always be my
Main squeeze gal cause you're a cutie
And you'll always be my sweet patootie
Hey there girl
You got the look that's one in a million
Rock my world
Let me take you to the cotillion
Repeat Chorus
We can make it together
Let us make it forever
Let us take it wherever it wants to go
Cause I love you so
Repeat Verse 1
Repeat Chorus
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim/sweet-patootie
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
5th track from my upcoming CD "The Cool Cat In The Wind"
I don't remember the last time I had this much fun working on a CD. Maybe my prog rock one. But this one has been a hoot.
The title is old slang for get angry.
Snap Your Cap
Hey boy
I know you're having a bad day
But don't you take it out on me
No way
Don't you snap your cap
Snap your cap
Snap your cap at me
Don't you snap your cap
Snap your cap
Snap your cap at me
Hey boy
I know that life can be real rough
But don't you take me for a fool
Time for you to get tough
Repeat Chorus
Hey boy
It's gonna get better
So don't you use me for a bag
Go brave the weather
Repeat Chorus
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim/snap-your-cap
I don't remember the last time I had this much fun working on a CD. Maybe my prog rock one. But this one has been a hoot.
The title is old slang for get angry.
Snap Your Cap
Hey boy
I know you're having a bad day
But don't you take it out on me
No way
Don't you snap your cap
Snap your cap
Snap your cap at me
Don't you snap your cap
Snap your cap
Snap your cap at me
Hey boy
I know that life can be real rough
But don't you take me for a fool
Time for you to get tough
Repeat Chorus
Hey boy
It's gonna get better
So don't you use me for a bag
Go brave the weather
Repeat Chorus
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim/snap-your-cap
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
6th track from my upcoming CD "The Cool Cat In The Wind"
City Juice is 30s slang for water.
City Juice
You know how to throw a party
You know how to have a good time
But you know what I like to drink girl
You know that it's not that cheap wine
You know I gotta have the good stuff
So you gotta break it loose
Don't want none of your city juice
We go through this every night girl
You try to commit the worst crime
But you know what I like to drink girl
You know that it's not that cheap wine
You know I gotta have the good stuff
So you gotta break it loose
Don't want none of your city juice
Let's stop playing these games girl
You try saving a thin dime
But you know what I like to drink girl
You know that it's not that cheap wine
You know I gotta have the good stuff
So you gotta break it loose
Don't want none of your city juice
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim/city-juice
City Juice is 30s slang for water.
City Juice
You know how to throw a party
You know how to have a good time
But you know what I like to drink girl
You know that it's not that cheap wine
You know I gotta have the good stuff
So you gotta break it loose
Don't want none of your city juice
We go through this every night girl
You try to commit the worst crime
But you know what I like to drink girl
You know that it's not that cheap wine
You know I gotta have the good stuff
So you gotta break it loose
Don't want none of your city juice
Let's stop playing these games girl
You try saving a thin dime
But you know what I like to drink girl
You know that it's not that cheap wine
You know I gotta have the good stuff
So you gotta break it loose
Don't want none of your city juice
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim/city-juice
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Although you're mixing chops have definitely improved, a couple of these songs are good enough that I'd suggest you trying to find someone to mix them and do them more justice. Compyfox's mixing challenge is one possibility, but there might be other avenues.
That's the good news.
The bad news is both 'Chicago Overcoat' and 'City Juice' are almost unlistenable due to the drums, which are just falling all over the place and dragging the rest of the performance with them
That's the good news.
The bad news is both 'Chicago Overcoat' and 'City Juice' are almost unlistenable due to the drums, which are just falling all over the place and dragging the rest of the performance with them
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Thanks for the listen and the feedback el-bo. All noted.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:31 am Although you're mixing chops have definitely improved, a couple of these songs are good enough that I'd suggest you trying to find someone to mix them and do them more justice. Compyfox's mixing challenge is one possibility, but there might be other avenues.
That's the good news.
The bad news is both 'Chicago Overcoat' and 'City Juice' are almost unlistenable due to the drums, which are just falling all over the place and dragging the rest of the performance with them
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
I do want to point out one thing, if it hasn't already been obvious. I am not a performer by any stretch of the imagination. My vocals alone, as better as they are, will automatically kill any chance of any of these songs being picked up by a record company looking for a performing artist. Instrumentally, all my instruments I play marginally at best including drums, keyboards, whatever. I am more than aware of this, which is why I never even considered becoming a performing musician.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:31 am Although you're mixing chops have definitely improved, a couple of these songs are good enough that I'd suggest you trying to find someone to mix them and do them more justice. Compyfox's mixing challenge is one possibility, but there might be other avenues.
That's the good news.
The bad news is both 'Chicago Overcoat' and 'City Juice' are almost unlistenable due to the drums, which are just falling all over the place and dragging the rest of the performance with them
My goal has always been to have somebody hear one of my songs, like the song itself, and offer to record it themselves in which case, hopefully, it will be performed well, which includes vocals, drums, keyboard and whatever other instruments are involved.
So I'm not overly concerned if my drumming or anything for that matter as far as performance is lacking.
Having said that, as the drums are all on the beat (everything is quantized) I kind of like the loose feel of them, especially City Juice. It's a refreshing relief from the rigid 4 on the floor of most songs today. If I thought they really sounded horrible, I would have never left them as they are. That I did, means I like the rhythm I chose for these tracks. That doesn't mean a pro drummer wouldn't say to me, "Those drums are horribly played" as I'm sure it's possible he might, but I still like the way they sound, And since I do these songs primarily for my own enjoyment, that's all that really matters to me.
And now that I've finally found a band willing to record my music, I care even less about what people think of my performances. Somebody out there will recognize the song under the performance, as has already happened, and record it properly. So all is good.
But your comments about the drums are noted. I have no doubt a lot of people might think they are a train wreck. Like I said, I like them.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
hey wags, check the new guitar forum...
peter from ik teasing some sort of "brian may" type sounds business thing
peter from ik teasing some sort of "brian may" type sounds business thing
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
No point "noting" my comments when you've evidently not understood them.