Behringer Poly D
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- KVRist
- 481 posts since 21 Nov, 2012 from Sitting in front of my PC
Looks like its not polyphonic but paraphonic.
Maybe they should have called it the Parody
Maybe they should have called it the Parody
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
kirsty roland wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:49 am Looks like its not polyphonic but paraphonic.
Maybe they should have called it the Parody
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- KVRAF
- 6420 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
I don't agree - I think unison with two oscillators each - true poly - it's quite alright, I think.
Or I got that wrong - not two waveforms.
4-voice single osc - maybe not so interesting. Some exception probably.
It sounds almost as good as last patches I did in Prologue.
I would expect same pricing as DM6 and it's a homerun for Behringer probably.
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- KVRian
- 1233 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden
2 or more oscillators through 1 common filter and VCA is pretty much the definition of paraphonic...
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- KVRist
- 470 posts since 25 Aug, 2016 from Helsinki, Finland
But there's only one VCA and VCF which the oscillators are sharing, so it's paraphonic instead of true polyphonic.
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- KVRAF
- 2008 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo
Sweet, the orange mod wheel gets brighter as it gets turned up.
But yeah, sharing the VCA VCF and modulation is definitely paraphonic. But if you're playing strict chords then maybe it doesn't matter especially with the chorus to thicken it.
But yeah, sharing the VCA VCF and modulation is definitely paraphonic. But if you're playing strict chords then maybe it doesn't matter especially with the chorus to thicken it.
I honestly dont see the point of this, would have been better beefing up the Deepmind instead-
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 976 posts since 12 Jan, 2013 from Foolish Shepherd
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- KVRAF
- 6420 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Then every synth I know is paraphonic - so not sure I understand.
Two oscillators through one vcf and one vca - most common thing I saw.
Polyphonic has separate instance of everything for each voice - is it specified this is not the case for Poly-D?
So you see one on panel - but it's one instance for each voice you fire.
Same envelope everything - or?
It's not up at Musictribe yet, so not sure about all info there is.
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- KVRAF
- 6420 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Seems more than I interpret poly 4 voice or just confused:
https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-reve ... -minimoog/
"The general idea is that it’s a 4 oscillator analogue synthesizer where you can use it a 4-oscillator monosynth, a 2-voice/2-oscillator unison synth or a single oscillator per voice 4-voice polysynth. There’s lots of discussion about whether it’s a “true” polysynth or whether it’s actually paraphonic. I’m generally of the opinion that if it can play more than one note at a time then its voicing is “polyphonic” but if it all goes through a single filter and envelope section (as this appears to) then it has “paraphonic” articulation. Other people describe these things differently but just as long as we all know what we’re trying to say then it’s fine. Behringer don’t appear to confirm it one way or another but the articulation is most likely to be paraphonic simply because of what we see on the front panel and the costs involved of having a filter and VCA for each voice individually."
I think folks above got it right, not me, just wonder how to conclude that paraphonic?
It's the calling it "2 note/unison" probably and not 2 voice.
If sharing the filter and starting one oscillator after the other and short envelope - what happends?
It affect all sounding notes, or?
All notes sound at sustain point?
https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-reve ... -minimoog/
"The general idea is that it’s a 4 oscillator analogue synthesizer where you can use it a 4-oscillator monosynth, a 2-voice/2-oscillator unison synth or a single oscillator per voice 4-voice polysynth. There’s lots of discussion about whether it’s a “true” polysynth or whether it’s actually paraphonic. I’m generally of the opinion that if it can play more than one note at a time then its voicing is “polyphonic” but if it all goes through a single filter and envelope section (as this appears to) then it has “paraphonic” articulation. Other people describe these things differently but just as long as we all know what we’re trying to say then it’s fine. Behringer don’t appear to confirm it one way or another but the articulation is most likely to be paraphonic simply because of what we see on the front panel and the costs involved of having a filter and VCA for each voice individually."
I think folks above got it right, not me, just wonder how to conclude that paraphonic?
It's the calling it "2 note/unison" probably and not 2 voice.
If sharing the filter and starting one oscillator after the other and short envelope - what happends?
It affect all sounding notes, or?
All notes sound at sustain point?
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
They added round-robin switch before oscillators and now call it a "polysynth"The general idea is that it’s a 4 oscillator analogue synthesizer where you can use it a 4-oscillator monosynth, a 2-voice/2-oscillator unison synth or a single oscillator per voice 4-voice polysynth.
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- KVRian
- 1286 posts since 7 Dec, 2013 from Earth
I think it's like this:
Polyphony: There are actually 4 oscillators per voice. So if the synth is 4 voice polyphonic it would need 4x4 or 16 oscillators.
Paraphony: You can play monophonic using all 4 oscillators combined into one voice, or 4 voice polyphonic using only one oscillator per voice, because the synth only has 4 oscillators in total.
If it all goes through only one filter has nothing to do with it, because very few synths have a dedicated filter per oscillator. This would mean that almost every polysynth is actually paraphonic.
Polyphony: There are actually 4 oscillators per voice. So if the synth is 4 voice polyphonic it would need 4x4 or 16 oscillators.
Paraphony: You can play monophonic using all 4 oscillators combined into one voice, or 4 voice polyphonic using only one oscillator per voice, because the synth only has 4 oscillators in total.
If it all goes through only one filter has nothing to do with it, because very few synths have a dedicated filter per oscillator. This would mean that almost every polysynth is actually paraphonic.
