Looking for very similar synths to the Roland JX-3P
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
I'm only being somewhat ironic in saying that you can get all those old sounds with several of the new Roland Juno, FA, Fantom synths. In some cases a new one may be less expensive and more reliable than buying an old one. Just depending on the "collector value" of whichever old one you might decide to get versus whether you decide to get a cheap new one or an expensive new one.
I mean, its not gonna be $350. Just sayin...
I mean, its not gonna be $350. Just sayin...
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Fox_GAMING_NTF Fox_GAMING_NTF https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=439070
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 226 posts since 11 Apr, 2019
I understand that. I might be able to go up to $400....
Just recently I've been looking at the Korg Poly 800.
Just recently I've been looking at the Korg Poly 800.
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- KVRAF
- 2279 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan
Dexed or Oxe FM for DX-7/FM sounds. Anything from Full Bucket for Korg sounds. OB-Xd for Oberheim sounds. SQ8L (32-bit Windows only) for SQ8 sounds. Augur (32-bit Windows only, and you'll have to Google it) for Prophet-VS sounds; Plex is similar (wavetable synthesis FTW!), but from a '90s lineage that pays homage. FM8 is good for DX-7 sounds, but Dexed crushes it. SQ8ROM is really good for SQ80 sounds, but doesn't model the chips and isn't as flexible. These are all best-of-breed choices, thoroughly excellent. Other than FM8, these are all free synths.
Monark or The Legend (which seems to be more beloved) for Minimoog sounds. Diva for a top-notch generic VA (Virtual Analog). Repro-5 or Arturia's Prophet-V emulation (ISTR it's Prophet-V, but I forget) for Prophet-V. That same Arturia emulation is also a Prophet-VS clone. Massive can do a good VA thing. These are all commercial. I generally use Tyrell N6 or Xhip (both free) for analog sounds, but there are other options. VA sounds are very, very divisive; no two people seem to agree on what's best. Don your asbestos longjohns after page 3 or so of any discussion, and good luck...
Monark or The Legend (which seems to be more beloved) for Minimoog sounds. Diva for a top-notch generic VA (Virtual Analog). Repro-5 or Arturia's Prophet-V emulation (ISTR it's Prophet-V, but I forget) for Prophet-V. That same Arturia emulation is also a Prophet-VS clone. Massive can do a good VA thing. These are all commercial. I generally use Tyrell N6 or Xhip (both free) for analog sounds, but there are other options. VA sounds are very, very divisive; no two people seem to agree on what's best. Don your asbestos longjohns after page 3 or so of any discussion, and good luck...
Wait... loot _then_ burn? D'oh!
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
How about this? https://www.roland.com/de/products/ju-06a/Fox_GAMING_NTF wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:47 pm I'm looking for a good, professional programmable synthesizer from the 1980s. Budget probably up to $300-$350, maybe $400. Looking for 80s leads, pads, synthpop, Juno/Roland-y style sounds, jx-3p style sounds, brass, those kinds of sounds. Polyphonic, with aftertouch if possible.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35171 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Korg Poly 800 is one of the cheaper options, as is their Poly 61. I owned a Poly 61 through the 90's and early 2000s, but unfortunately had to sell it.
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- KVRAF
- 6426 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Had a Roland D-50 15 years ago, and they stopped manufacturing of that in the early 90's or so.
Lovely sounding, but also some quirks being old. Twice I had to take it apart to an extent to clean up key contacts, lift some rubber and spray some antioxidation fluid and so forth.
So there are some things to consider buying old gear.
So modern alternative is the Boutique D-05, which is extended with having the 5 cartridge Roland released with sounds built in(6 factory banks total), and then 8 banks to write your own user patches. 16 voice, most sounds use two layers so 8 voice normally - but much more than most Boutiques.
And what was not in D-50 is an arpeggiator as well.
Then add the amount of sysex with sounds out there - since D-05 is compatible with D-50 sysex.
But for anybody liking to make their own sounds - hardly anything Roland fit. I extend it to remove reverb in D-05 to use reverb in daw in computer instead. A computer editor for those not minding doing that maybe helps. Not sure if the programming unit PG-800 works, which has slider and knobs for most of it.
But I find D-05 is a powerbrick worth having and very affordable.
Lovely sounding, but also some quirks being old. Twice I had to take it apart to an extent to clean up key contacts, lift some rubber and spray some antioxidation fluid and so forth.
So there are some things to consider buying old gear.
So modern alternative is the Boutique D-05, which is extended with having the 5 cartridge Roland released with sounds built in(6 factory banks total), and then 8 banks to write your own user patches. 16 voice, most sounds use two layers so 8 voice normally - but much more than most Boutiques.
And what was not in D-50 is an arpeggiator as well.
Then add the amount of sysex with sounds out there - since D-05 is compatible with D-50 sysex.
But for anybody liking to make their own sounds - hardly anything Roland fit. I extend it to remove reverb in D-05 to use reverb in daw in computer instead. A computer editor for those not minding doing that maybe helps. Not sure if the programming unit PG-800 works, which has slider and knobs for most of it.
But I find D-05 is a powerbrick worth having and very affordable.
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- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
Jafo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:19 pm Dexed or Oxe FM for DX-7/FM sounds. Anything from Full Bucket for Korg sounds. OB-Xd for Oberheim sounds. SQ8L (32-bit Windows only) for SQ8 sounds. Augur (32-bit Windows only, and you'll have to Google it) for Prophet-VS sounds; Plex is similar (wavetable synthesis FTW!), but from a '90s lineage that pays homage. FM8 is good for DX-7 sounds, but Dexed crushes it. SQ8ROM is really good for SQ80 sounds, but doesn't model the chips and isn't as flexible. These are all best-of-breed choices, thoroughly excellent. Other than FM8, these are all free synths.
Monark or The Legend (which seems to be more beloved) for Minimoog sounds. Diva for a top-notch generic VA (Virtual Analog). Repro-5 or Arturia's Prophet-V emulation (ISTR it's Prophet-V, but I forget) for Prophet-V. That same Arturia emulation is also a Prophet-VS clone. Massive can do a good VA thing. These are all commercial. I generally use Tyrell N6 or Xhip (both free) for analog sounds, but there are other options. VA sounds are very, very divisive; no two people seem to agree on what's best. Don your asbestos longjohns after page 3 or so of any discussion, and good luck...
why are you suggesting software, its the hardware forum
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
not sure if this is another of your joke threads, butFox_GAMING_NTF wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:47 pm I'm looking for a good, professional programmable synthesizer from the 1980s. Budget probably up to $300-$350, maybe $400. Looking for 80s leads, pads, synthpop, Juno/Roland-y style sounds, jx-3p style sounds, brass, those kinds of sounds. Polyphonic, with aftertouch if possible.
you will be very lucky to get anything like that with todays prices
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Fox_GAMING_NTF Fox_GAMING_NTF https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=439070
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 226 posts since 11 Apr, 2019
None of them are, "joke" threads.AnX wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:48 amnot sure if this is another of your joke threads, butFox_GAMING_NTF wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:47 pm I'm looking for a good, professional programmable synthesizer from the 1980s. Budget probably up to $300-$350, maybe $400. Looking for 80s leads, pads, synthpop, Juno/Roland-y style sounds, jx-3p style sounds, brass, those kinds of sounds. Polyphonic, with aftertouch if possible.
you will be very lucky to get anything like that with todays prices
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
lfm and chk071 have good ideas. ju-06a and d-05 are rather classic 80's type of sound. Polyphony isn't necessarily inadequate, especially d-05 at 16 or 8 voice polyphony depending on mode.
ju-06a 4-voice polyphony is getting kinda slim, but OTOH MemoryMoog and Rhodes Chroma Polaris only had 6 voice polyphony, Prophet-5 only 5 voices, Yamaha CS-50 only four-voice polyphony with only single-oscillator voice cards at that. 80's players seemed to get by with the limited polyphony.
ju-06a 4-voice polyphony is getting kinda slim, but OTOH MemoryMoog and Rhodes Chroma Polaris only had 6 voice polyphony, Prophet-5 only 5 voices, Yamaha CS-50 only four-voice polyphony with only single-oscillator voice cards at that. 80's players seemed to get by with the limited polyphony.
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- KVRAF
- 2279 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan
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- KVRist
- 397 posts since 3 Feb, 2017
Depending on where you are, you might find
Ensoniq ESQ1/ SQ 80 , Korg DW 8000 for $350-$400
Ensoniq ESQ1/ SQ 80 , Korg DW 8000 for $350-$400
- KVRAF
- 14991 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Alpha Juno.
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Fox_GAMING_NTF Fox_GAMING_NTF https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=439070
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 226 posts since 11 Apr, 2019
I have looked into them, the JU-06a in particular, however the main drawback for me is 4-voice polyphony.JCJR wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:52 pm lfm and chk071 have good ideas. ju-06a and d-05 are rather classic 80's type of sound. Polyphony isn't necessarily inadequate, especially d-05 at 16 or 8 voice polyphony depending on mode.
ju-06a 4-voice polyphony is getting kinda slim, but OTOH MemoryMoog and Rhodes Chroma Polaris only had 6 voice polyphony, Prophet-5 only 5 voices, Yamaha CS-50 only four-voice polyphony with only single-oscillator voice cards at that. 80's players seemed to get by with the limited polyphony.
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
I like those, assuming the unit would be in good shape and reliable after all those years. My ESQ-1 is still is good shape but I don't fire it up very often nowadays.christian f. wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:25 pm Depending on where you are, you might find
Ensoniq ESQ1/ SQ 80 , Korg DW 8000 for $350-$400
Poly 800 and Poly61 I know some folks like em but I never liked em even back when they were new, certainly wouldn't want an antique version of the same. I personally thought both of those were just weak as water.