Waldorf Kyra UK release
- KVRAF
- 8181 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
I don't know the technicalities, but Access managed to do the audio over USB thing alongside your standard ASIO interface years ago. Not sure why other manufacturers haven't been able to improve on the technology
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
The sound seems to be somewhere between Spire and Dune3.chk071 wrote: βMon Oct 07, 2019 8:00 am Just realized that Waldorf uploaded a new Kyra video (with final sound):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HafV6CGS43Y
Sounds cool but not 2k cool . A bit on the thin side. Virus sounds fatter.
I'd love to hear more abstract/sci-fi/psychedelic sounds, like those formant/grain oscs in Virus can do.
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- KVRAF
- 8074 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
You need to pay 1k for the wooden sidesrecursive one wrote: βTue Oct 08, 2019 7:23 amSounds cool but not 2k coolchk071 wrote: βMon Oct 07, 2019 8:00 am Just realized that Waldorf uploaded a new Kyra video (with final sound):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HafV6CGS43Y
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Sounds pretty big on my system, go try one out in store
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
I think Recursive ment its not 2k worth because nowdays vsts for 100-200 eu sound as big as Kyra.rob_lee wrote: βTue Oct 08, 2019 8:10 amYou need to pay 1k for the wooden sidesrecursive one wrote: βTue Oct 08, 2019 7:23 amSounds cool but not 2k coolchk071 wrote: βMon Oct 07, 2019 8:00 am Just realized that Waldorf uploaded a new Kyra video (with final sound):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HafV6CGS43Y
PS
Sounds pretty big on my system, go try one out in store
From youtube sounds the character at least for me reminds me Dune 2/3 alot. Which is good
But yeah VSTs ftw thesw days for productivity
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
TBH, still not convinced with the sound. Waldorf should go back to their roots, their synths sounded better back in the days. Just my opinion.
And, yes, i know this is a synth they "bought in", so, it's clear that i doesn't sound too Waldorf-ish.
And, yes, i know this is a synth they "bought in", so, it's clear that i doesn't sound too Waldorf-ish.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
Yes, that's what I meant. Must be a killer synth for a 100% hardware setup, but i'm mostly ITB so for me 10x price compared to top VSTis and the troubles of integrating a hardware synth into my worklow must be justified by the sound which I can't get from a VSTi. Which I haven't exactly heard from Kyra yet.Elektronisch wrote: βTue Oct 08, 2019 10:23 amI think Recursive ment its not 2k worth because nowdays vsts for 100-200 eu sound as big as Kyra.rob_lee wrote: βTue Oct 08, 2019 8:10 amYou need to pay 1k for the wooden sidesrecursive one wrote: βTue Oct 08, 2019 7:23 amSounds cool but not 2k coolchk071 wrote: βMon Oct 07, 2019 8:00 am Just realized that Waldorf uploaded a new Kyra video (with final sound):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HafV6CGS43Y
PS
Sounds pretty big on my system, go try one out in store
From youtube sounds the character at least for me reminds me Dune 2/3 alot. Which is good
But yeah VSTs ftw thesw days for productivity
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try
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- KVRAF
- 6426 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
I wa bored to death by Waldorf own demo you posted link to.
I assume you watched this too, or?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5u1KmVvbxI
It makes all the difference that demo/instructor is a musician and can play something that is musical in the context each patch he is demoing.
Something about the sound too, that PluginGury knows what to use to upload to YT to not have it degraded too much.
Problem for me right now with Kyra is there is no auduble preview of memory slots you are about to overwrite, only preview of name in that slot.
I asked Waldorf support if that might come in a firmware update, so will come back and tell what they say. To spend this money I want something that really feeds my creativity and not needing a separate papper or spreadsheet listening through everything first, and see which slots I can overwrite.
I go in all directions of a synth to explore every territory, that is the fun part.
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- KVRAF
- 6426 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
I can't say I get that reasoning - sounding big?Elektronisch wrote: βTue Oct 08, 2019 10:23 am I think Recursive ment its not 2k worth because nowdays vsts for 100-200 eu sound as big as Kyra.
If you already working in a daw, you can make anything sound big - even a blip.
Probably with stock plugins in daw.
The interesting part would be what you can create with all the effects gone - the core timbre, sort of. And if it's fun to explore those territories.
Anything sounds big and even good flooded with reverbs and delays.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
@lfm: I hear the same sound in any video i'm watching, TBH. It's not sounding bad, it's just that i can't see how it sounds better than some of the better plugins i use.
Just my opinion. Repeat disclaimer infinitely.
Listen to the Blofeld in comparison. Different league IMO. Of course, it can't play 128 voices, or do big unison.
IMO, Waldorf isn't the same since Wolfram Franke and Stefan Stenzel left. AFAIK, those were the 2 key figures in Waldorf's development. Anyway, i really sound more negative than i actually want to be. All the best to them and this synth. It's just that it doesn't "blow me out of the water", as they say.
Just my opinion. Repeat disclaimer infinitely.
Listen to the Blofeld in comparison. Different league IMO. Of course, it can't play 128 voices, or do big unison.
IMO, Waldorf isn't the same since Wolfram Franke and Stefan Stenzel left. AFAIK, those were the 2 key figures in Waldorf's development. Anyway, i really sound more negative than i actually want to be. All the best to them and this synth. It's just that it doesn't "blow me out of the water", as they say.
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- KVRAF
- 6426 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
After extensive research I bought Blofelt a couple of years ago. Sounds excellent. Whole lotta YT vids consumed investigating that.
But I found it hell to work with, much, much too heavy main switch at display which govern every parameter you want to change to. Thought a little bit to extend with maybe 1"-2" knob or something to get momentum, but scrapped that idea. So sent it back - only synth I did not keep that I bought.
And buying the black panel one, was yet another mistake. Much too small and thin fonts on such a dark background. Really weird that comes out of production at all.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Welcome to the club... kind of the same story here. I already have Largo, and found Blofeld a pain to operate in comparison, so i stuck with Largo, and sent Blofeld back. Still sounded awesome though, like Largo. Lots of overlap there though, so, no regrets (except sometimes, when i feel like i need something i don't really need...).lfm wrote: βTue Oct 08, 2019 12:33 pm After extensive research I bought Blofelt a couple of years ago. Sounds excellent. Whole lotta YT vids consumed investigating that.
But I found it hell to work with, much, much too heavy main switch at display which govern every parameter you want to change to. Thought a little bit to extend with maybe 1"-2" knob or something to get momentum, but scrapped that idea. So sent it back - only synth I did not keep that I bought.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
Tis doubtful I will buy any synth in forseeable future, already got more old ones than I use. But it is fun window shopping
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Personally totally uninterested in softsynths but I like soft FX and daws.
Different ears. The Kyra sounds sweet to me. Even the early rough alpha demos and especially that last one posted. Kyra just sounds sweet and musical to me. Lots better than typical "hard edged" quantum vids, and the Blofeld vids don:t sound good to me. Kinda cheep and cheesy sounding. Different ears, no big deal.
I like what have heard from ASM Hydra as well.
Really, more interesting looking hardware synths now than ever. So many, wonder how the market is big enough, where the hell are enough people in the world to buy all these great synths?
When I buy a synth it is such a big time sink plumbing it's depths. Even full time money no object I couldn't buy many synths and fully learn/use each one. Some would have to sit indefinitely in the box on a shelf waiting for enough time to play with them.
Are there numerous well heeled synth collectors like the well heeled guitar collectors who own tens or hundreds of guitars but didn't yet quite master the stairway to heaven intro riff?
If so then God Bless Em because their compulsive buying might keep all these great new synths from going broke from slack sales.
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Personally totally uninterested in softsynths but I like soft FX and daws.
Different ears. The Kyra sounds sweet to me. Even the early rough alpha demos and especially that last one posted. Kyra just sounds sweet and musical to me. Lots better than typical "hard edged" quantum vids, and the Blofeld vids don:t sound good to me. Kinda cheep and cheesy sounding. Different ears, no big deal.
I like what have heard from ASM Hydra as well.
Really, more interesting looking hardware synths now than ever. So many, wonder how the market is big enough, where the hell are enough people in the world to buy all these great synths?
When I buy a synth it is such a big time sink plumbing it's depths. Even full time money no object I couldn't buy many synths and fully learn/use each one. Some would have to sit indefinitely in the box on a shelf waiting for enough time to play with them.
Are there numerous well heeled synth collectors like the well heeled guitar collectors who own tens or hundreds of guitars but didn't yet quite master the stairway to heaven intro riff?
If so then God Bless Em because their compulsive buying might keep all these great new synths from going broke from slack sales.