KVR Audio

HM · Post by HM » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:50 am

zoidkirb wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:07 am
pandashake wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:27 am Is there a way to load up a rack with say a Subtractor, Europa, and Redrum in one rack and control each via a separate midi channel or am I forced to load up three instances of rack?
I don't know but I think not. There is however some devices in the shop that allow this. I use one called 'midi-cv converter. It works in Reason daw anyway.

Unfortunately not it seems, so the idea of a "synth-rack", controllable from DAW, is highly ampurtated, better than rewire, but not ok for a normal work-flow,... Kombinator will also
suffer from this, and in many cases not making sense,..

Manual is out:

https://a.phcdn.se/Reason11/Manuals/Rea ... Manual.pdf

Look at chpt 3 page 36 and forward

zoidkirb · Post by **zoidkirb** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:43 am

HM wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:50 am
zoidkirb wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:07 am
pandashake wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:27 am Is there a way to load up a rack with say a Subtractor, Europa, and Redrum in one rack and control each via a separate midi channel or am I forced to load up three instances of rack?
I don't know but I think not. There is however some devices in the shop that allow this. I use one called 'midi-cv converter. It works in Reason daw anyway.

Unfortunately not it seems, so the idea of a "synth-rack", controllable from DAW, is highly ampurtated, better than rewire, but not ok for a normal work-flow,... Kombinator will also
suffer from this, and in many cases not making sense,..

Manual is out:

https://a.phcdn.se/Reason11/Manuals/Rea ... Manual.pdf

Look at chpt 3 page 36 and forward

midi-cv converter https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... converter/
did the trick for me, using ableton live/reason rack. i followed this tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lmAGQ3FM5w but i made some changes ie , i stuck the extra instruments in their own combinator and unchecked "recieve midi notes"
from there you use the buttons on the midi-cv converter to toggle on/off what synths you want.
you're still stuck using one midi channel per rack but you can split up the audio outs at least.
it's a bit on an insane workaround for a simple problem but eh welcome to reason studios :p

pandashake · Post by **pandashake** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:57 am

Yeah, this is going to keep me from upgrading. Seems like a glaring oversight on the development side of things. Hoped they would have fixed it from the first beta I played with.

Biscotto · Post by **Biscotto** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:46 pm

Welcome to the Upgrade Plans Saga too!

Noumena · Post by **Noumena** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:58 pm

Yes, one midi channel in and even worse NO MIDI OUT (Boo) but boy is it brilliant to be able to instantiate Racks in my DAW.

The key thing was written above, which is without a Combinator all instruments get all midi, which is annoying. So, I've just been starting everything in a Combiner's by default so that I have control over that.

It is really, really, really nice for me to have my Reason stuff, bought so long ago, in Bitwig. I freaking LOVE The Echo -- I still love it! And Parsec and Antidote are such great synths. And so on -- for $249 I got so much that I know and love AND all the cook electric Panda modular stuff that I'd been missing.

Now about that MIDI out.... (in the meantime I'll be hacking away to get Bitiwig's built in CV tools to work with audio out. More on that when I get it working (crosses fingers.)

Noumena · Post by **Noumena** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:00 pm

OH -- but my question... is there a CV-Audio converter in the RE's? That's what is needed.

Yup! here it is: https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... -to-audio/

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:17 pm

Can the Rack host third party VST's?

Is there a Bidule or Mux or Partcher like modular environment in the Rack.
In other words is there freedom to connect the RE's as one desires?

Lotuz2019 · Post by **Lotuz2019** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:57 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:17 pm Can the Rack host third party VST's?

No, unfortunately not.

To be able to make combinators containing VST plugins inside the Reason Rack VST (like you can in Reason standalone) would be awesome.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:05 pm

Now that Reason can host VSTs and run as a VST, the main question is...

Can Reason load Reason as VST?

Lotuz2019 · Post by **Lotuz2019** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:10 pm

recursive one wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:05 pm Now that Reason can host VSTs and run as a VST, the main question is...

Can Reason load Reason as VST?

No, Reason standalone only hosts VST2 plugins. Reason Rack VST is VST3.

akeia · Post by **akeia** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:50 pm

recursive one wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:05 pm Can Reason load Reason as VST?

Yes. You need a multi-format plugin host. For example DDMF Metaplugin https://ddmf.eu/metaplugin-chainer-vst- ... x-wrapper/

Lotuz2019 · Post by **Lotuz2019** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:05 pm

krucial · Post by **krucial** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:24 pm

pandashake wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:27 am Is there a way to load up a rack with say a Subtractor, Europa, and Redrum in one rack and control each via a separate midi channel or am I forced to load up three instances of rack?

Why on earth would you want to do this? And isn’t this essentially what Rewire did? One rack send midi to different instruments? Yet people hated that workflow.

polac · Post by **polac** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:03 pm

Can Reason load Reason as VST?

You could use my vst3-wrappers(vst3shell.dll,vsti3shell.dll etc.) to run vst3's in vst2 hosts.

https://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/beta/pv ... .10b33.zip

Look at the vst folder in the zipfile.

db3 · Post by **db3** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:59 pm

Biscotto wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:06 am
db3 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:05 am Solid so far for me on Live 10 Mac. 100% agree on GUI, this release should have been updated for high-dpi & higher resolutions (the factory rack plugins from PH).
On windows in Ableton the Rack RE knobs seems no to react to automation.
Is this the same on the Mac?

I can record automation in rack instrument knobs — if that's what you mean.