Sure. It's always the users doing something wrong. How could i forget.antic604 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:25 pmIt barely registers on the CPU meter of my (already) modest laptop. You're doing something wrong.ReboundAudio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:37 pmThe first BASS preset (i think it was called Anlalog FM) needs 50% CPU on a i9 9900X maschine?
Phase Plant released
- KVRist
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Then how will you explain the discrepancy?ReboundAudio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:00 pmSure. It's always the users doing something wrong. How could i forget.
5% on a 6-core 3GHz processor vs. 50% on a 10-core 3.5GHz processor?
Obviously there's some variable on your end that you're oblivious to or at least aren't telling
- KVRist
- 277 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany
Load the preset and trigger it very quick. Create a video of it. I want to see the 5% CPU!antic604 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:07 pmThen how will you explain the discrepancy?ReboundAudio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:00 pmSure. It's always the users doing something wrong. How could i forget.
5% on a 6-core 3GHz processor vs. 50% on a 10-core 3.5GHz processor?
Obviously there's some variable on your end that you're oblivious to or at least aren't telling
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- KVRAF
- 2281 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from Doritos Land where no goblins are allowed
Absolutely not : I was simply pointing the fact that (I think) ReboundAudio was talking audio when you were talking technology.PieBerger wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:29 pmI think you misunderstand my point and my tone. It's not about having thousands of choices, in fact it's funny that you made such a comment, especially "987465758 choices of analog filters" because one of PP's weakest areas, by on-paper specs and feedback from users, is a lack of variety in the filter department It's also not about PP being the best synth in the world ever, because it's not and no other synth is either. You're just putting words into my mouth here...I was replying to "has nothing special which isn't able to do with other synths" , which I have taken to mean as lacking in features not anything along the lines of "in my personal opinion this synth fails to deliver soundwise compared other synths I own/have tried" again you're putting words in my mouth or at the very least you didn't consider that I may have been coming at it from a different angle.DJErmac wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:59 pmWho cares ? What if it had 2876 oscillators, 3456 LFO, 987465758 choices of analog filters, combine FM, wavetable, multisample with RR ? Would it automatically be the best synth ever ?PieBerger wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:22 pmWhat are the other synths that combine PM, FM, Wavetable and Sampling (albeit rather basic), in a semi-modular/freely routable (mostly) environment, with modulatable FX and with good workflow ie no menu-diving/tabbing? I'd like to know about themReboundAudio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:37 pmOf course i explain why! I thought it's completly on the hands why but OK.Care to explain why?
First lets say that the synth has nothing special which isn't able to do with other synths.
It supports sample load but no multisample load... what?
ALL The FX sounds really CHEAP and basic and nothing special
The first BASS preset (i think it was called Anlalog FM) needs 50% CPU on a i9 9900X maschine?
The whole system is builded so confusing that when i see it from a noob-preset-rider view is not easy to understand. Experienced users will maybe understand this synth quick. But... ehm no... For me its absolutely not worth its price... and thats my last point.
The price of it is a bad joke! For Real!
I agree, Phase Plant may combine PM, FM, Wavetable and anything you want, it fails to deliver any SOUND I've heard somewhere else, sorry.
And what I was trying to say in the end is that it absolutely doesn't matter how the sound is made if the result is poor.
You are entirely right in what you've said btw, but it seems ReboundAudio and I both said in our ways that the synth capabilities didn't show anything amazing in the final audio result.
Please don’t read the above post. It’s a stupid one. Simply pass.
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- KVRAF
- 2023 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
Alrighty, just got our wires crossed a littleDJErmac wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:00 pmAbsolutely not : I was simply pointing the fact that (I think) ReboundAudio was talking audio when you were talking technology.PieBerger wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:29 pmI think you misunderstand my point and my tone. It's not about having thousands of choices, in fact it's funny that you made such a comment, especially "987465758 choices of analog filters" because one of PP's weakest areas, by on-paper specs and feedback from users, is a lack of variety in the filter department It's also not about PP being the best synth in the world ever, because it's not and no other synth is either. You're just putting words into my mouth here...I was replying to "has nothing special which isn't able to do with other synths" , which I have taken to mean as lacking in features not anything along the lines of "in my personal opinion this synth fails to deliver soundwise compared other synths I own/have tried" again you're putting words in my mouth or at the very least you didn't consider that I may have been coming at it from a different angle.DJErmac wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:59 pmWho cares ? What if it had 2876 oscillators, 3456 LFO, 987465758 choices of analog filters, combine FM, wavetable, multisample with RR ? Would it automatically be the best synth ever ?PieBerger wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:22 pmWhat are the other synths that combine PM, FM, Wavetable and Sampling (albeit rather basic), in a semi-modular/freely routable (mostly) environment, with modulatable FX and with good workflow ie no menu-diving/tabbing? I'd like to know about themReboundAudio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:37 pmOf course i explain why! I thought it's completly on the hands why but OK.Care to explain why?
First lets say that the synth has nothing special which isn't able to do with other synths.
It supports sample load but no multisample load... what?
ALL The FX sounds really CHEAP and basic and nothing special
The first BASS preset (i think it was called Anlalog FM) needs 50% CPU on a i9 9900X maschine?
The whole system is builded so confusing that when i see it from a noob-preset-rider view is not easy to understand. Experienced users will maybe understand this synth quick. But... ehm no... For me its absolutely not worth its price... and thats my last point.
The price of it is a bad joke! For Real!
I agree, Phase Plant may combine PM, FM, Wavetable and anything you want, it fails to deliver any SOUND I've heard somewhere else, sorry.
And what I was trying to say in the end is that it absolutely doesn't matter how the sound is made if the result is poor.
You are entirely right in what you've said btw, but it seems ReboundAudio and I both said in our ways that the synth capabilities didn't show anything amazing in the final audio result.
Always Read the Manual!
- KVRist
- 277 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany
Still waiting for your 5% cpu video my friend.antic604 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:07 pmThen how will you explain the discrepancy?ReboundAudio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:00 pmSure. It's always the users doing something wrong. How could i forget.
5% on a 6-core 3GHz processor vs. 50% on a 10-core 3.5GHz processor?
Obviously there's some variable on your end that you're oblivious to or at least aren't telling
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Some of us have families and have to work, you know? Don't worry - it's comingReboundAudio wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:37 pmStill waiting for your 5% cpu video my friend.antic604 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:07 pmThen how will you explain the discrepancy?ReboundAudio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:00 pmSure. It's always the users doing something wrong. How could i forget.
5% on a 6-core 3GHz processor vs. 50% on a 10-core 3.5GHz processor?
Obviously there's some variable on your end that you're oblivious to or at least aren't telling
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Ok,sorry - it jumps between 15-25% here. But it's on a CPU that's almost 50% of the one you have:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/In ... 3376vs3237
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- KVRist
- 109 posts since 1 Jan, 2018
Bitwig 3's The Grid.
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- 277 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany
Sorry but i still don't believe you! And i don't know why you try to protect the synth in this case. It needs way to much CPU even on a VERY STRONG CPU and this is a hint, that it has BAD code!antic604 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:40 amOk,sorry - it jumps between 15-25% here. But it's on a CPU that's almost 50% of the one you have:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/In ... 3376vs3237
You ever tried (as example) Rapid? 24 OSC possible there, wavetables with 10.000 steps, multisamples with round robin, effects, send, etc etc... I can have 10 OSC there and don't have more than 10% cpu. Now PhasePlant starts to annoy with a simple bassline which needs 50% fast triggering. i mean wtf?
And now you write it needs 15-25% ... just before you try to proof it would be just 5%?
If you have nothing constructive and truthful to answer on my posts, please just shut up!
Best wishes!
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- KVRAF
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For the most part, I noticed the CPU was OK except for the some of more complex presets such as
Accent Piece and Beyond Guitar. Those and some others with similar complexity seemed to strain the CPU a bit. I have an i7 Intel-CPU with 16 gigs of RAM from about 3-4 years ago but it should be able to handle it.
Accent Piece and Beyond Guitar. Those and some others with similar complexity seemed to strain the CPU a bit. I have an i7 Intel-CPU with 16 gigs of RAM from about 3-4 years ago but it should be able to handle it.
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- KVRist
- 187 posts since 6 Jun, 2019
antic604 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:25 pmIt barely registers on the CPU meter of my (already) modest laptop. You're doing something wrong.ReboundAudio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:37 pmThe first BASS preset (i think it was called Anlalog FM) needs 50% CPU on a i9 9900X maschine? :scared:
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- KVRian
- 530 posts since 8 Apr, 2018
What power mode are you running? I have only heard once before when a 9900 was using huge CPU like that when others were not and its when the power mode was set to "balanced" instead of "high performance" (control panel > hardware and sound > power options). I have an i7-8700 and don't come close to your numbers.ReboundAudio wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:21 pmSorry but i still don't believe you! And i don't know why you try to protect the synth in this case. It needs way to much CPU even on a VERY STRONG CPU and this is a hint, that it has BAD code!antic604 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:40 amOk,sorry - it jumps between 15-25% here. But it's on a CPU that's almost 50% of the one you have:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/In ... 3376vs3237
You ever tried (as example) Rapid? 24 OSC possible there, wavetables with 10.000 steps, multisamples with round robin, effects, send, etc etc... I can have 10 OSC there and don't have more than 10% cpu. Now PhasePlant starts to annoy with a simple bassline which needs 50% fast triggering. i mean wtf?
And now you write it needs 15-25% ... just before you try to proof it would be just 5%?
If you have nothing constructive and truthful to answer on my posts, please just shut up!
Best wishes!