If you mean Serum, I still am!!! (the version I am using has been beat for about 18 months now I think)
Picture this ! Arturia Pigments is here
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- KVRAF
- 11090 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
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- KVRAF
- 25310 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
That's not true... having 2 filters is a huge differencevertibration wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:21 pm It does nothing that Xfer Serum hasn't already done, and done better. Valiant effort by Arturia but I would have liked to have seen something more innovative.
I like the modulation better in Pigments. Also, in Serum, you have only the one Warp option. Pigments gives the user FM, PM, PD and Wavefolding options at the same time.
Serum obviously allows much more facility for creating wavetables.
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- KVRAF
- 11090 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Hmm, MPE 'capable' and 'Fully MPC' are two different things, I can't get Y axis with Hive for example (unless I have missed something in 1.2 or is it still 'voice per channel?). Pigment in Bitwg is MPE 'capable' (with force MPE) and works pretty well, just need to do a bit of assigning....pdxindy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 pmHive is MPE capable.SLiC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:09 pmNore does just about any other synth recently released (Hive 1.2, Dune 3 etc) it is still proobably less than 1% of peope using MPE (I am one of them!) but I can make any VST be at least partially MPE in Bitwig with force MPE mode, but very few VSTs (maybe 6!? support all my Rolli features)
I still think it is a very short list of truly 'strait out of the box' MPE synth, as opposed to synths that can do some MPE with a little poking and setup.
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- KVRAF
- 25310 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
- KVRAF
- 25310 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Hive has the Control A and Control B sources. Set one of them to CC74. Y axis works fine. Hive also has the modulation functions so you can adjust mod curves in some useful ways. Hive is a solid MPE capable synth. The only thing it does not have is release velocity.SLiC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:59 pmHmm, MPE 'capable' and 'Fully MPC' are two different things, I can't get Y axis with Hive for example (unless I have missed something in 1.2 or is it still 'voice per channel?). Pigment in Bitwg is MPE 'capable' (with force MPE) and works pretty well, just need to do a bit of assigning....pdxindy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 pmHive is MPE capable.SLiC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:09 pmNore does just about any other synth recently released (Hive 1.2, Dune 3 etc) it is still proobably less than 1% of peope using MPE (I am one of them!) but I can make any VST be at least partially MPE in Bitwig with force MPE mode, but very few VSTs (maybe 6!? support all my Rolli features)
I still think it is a very short list of truly 'strait out of the box' MPE synth, as opposed to synths that can do some MPE with a little poking and setup.
Pigments does not support MPE. Does not have CC74 nor does it support voice per channel. You would have to use a bunch of instances.
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- KVRAF
- 11090 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Apologies, I was wrong, Pigment won't play with 'Force MPE' in Bigwig….I was just used to that magic button working! My first negative for Pigment! I am still struggling with Hive however, do you have to set the pitch bend range and modulation destination for every preset or can I make a default that applies to all patches (+-48 and y set to mod wheel for example)pdxindy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:15 pmHive has the Control A and Control B sources. Set one of them to CC74. Y axis works fine. Hive also has the modulation functions so you can adjust mod curves in some useful ways. Hive is a solid MPE capable synth. The only thing it does not have is release velocity.SLiC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:59 pmHmm, MPE 'capable' and 'Fully MPC' are two different things, I can't get Y axis with Hive for example (unless I have missed something in 1.2 or is it still 'voice per channel?). Pigment in Bitwg is MPE 'capable' (with force MPE) and works pretty well, just need to do a bit of assigning....pdxindy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 pmHive is MPE capable.SLiC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:09 pmNore does just about any other synth recently released (Hive 1.2, Dune 3 etc) it is still proobably less than 1% of peope using MPE (I am one of them!) but I can make any VST be at least partially MPE in Bitwig with force MPE mode, but very few VSTs (maybe 6!? support all my Rolli features)
I still think it is a very short list of truly 'strait out of the box' MPE synth, as opposed to synths that can do some MPE with a little poking and setup.
Pigments does not support MPE. Does not have CC74 nor does it support voice per channel. You would have to use a bunch of instances.
X32 Desk, i9 PC, S49MK2, Studio One, BWS, Live 12. PUSH 3 SA, Osmose, Summit, Pro 3, Prophet8, Syntakt, Digitone, Drumlogue, OP1-F, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Nord Drum3P, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
- KVRAF
- 5796 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
- KVRAF
- 25310 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
In Hive (and u-he plugins in general) you can lock any parameter. So you can lock the pitch up and down at whatever values you wish and that will hold as you switch presets.SLiC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:59 pmApologies, I was wrong, Pigment won't play with 'Force MPE' in Bigwig….I was just used to that magic button working! My first negative for Pigment! I am still struggling with Hive however, do you have to set the pitch bend range and modulation destination for every preset or can I make a default that applies to all patches (+-48 and y set to mod wheel for example)pdxindy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:15 pmHive has the Control A and Control B sources. Set one of them to CC74. Y axis works fine. Hive also has the modulation functions so you can adjust mod curves in some useful ways. Hive is a solid MPE capable synth. The only thing it does not have is release velocity.SLiC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:59 pmHmm, MPE 'capable' and 'Fully MPC' are two different things, I can't get Y axis with Hive for example (unless I have missed something in 1.2 or is it still 'voice per channel?). Pigment in Bitwg is MPE 'capable' (with force MPE) and works pretty well, just need to do a bit of assigning....pdxindy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 pmHive is MPE capable.SLiC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:09 pmNore does just about any other synth recently released (Hive 1.2, Dune 3 etc) it is still proobably less than 1% of peope using MPE (I am one of them!) but I can make any VST be at least partially MPE in Bitwig with force MPE mode, but very few VSTs (maybe 6!? support all my Rolli features)
I still think it is a very short list of truly 'strait out of the box' MPE synth, as opposed to synths that can do some MPE with a little poking and setup.
Pigments does not support MPE. Does not have CC74 nor does it support voice per channel. You would have to use a bunch of instances.
It would be cool if Arturia added MPE support to Pigments cause with its modulation capabilities, it would be a good MPE synth!
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- KVRAF
- 11090 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Thanks- I have already emailed Arturia support to ask if they have any plan for MPE in the future, I would imagen as they have 22 synths they are looking for a universal solution, but they could start with Pigments
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- KVRAF
- 2167 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
+1
I'm curious about the decision-making & team behind Pigments
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- KVRian
- 775 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from sweden
Neither Carnivore nor Vegan... I'm now the Combinator after demoing this one (not to be confyoosed with the Propellerheads variety). Some interesting implementations in this one. This does not seem like an Arturia synth. But that name gets my goat. But I will absolutely admit after tinkering with it for an half-hour. It's definitely worth your demo time. Not too big on the included preset patches, just clicking through. But I definitely llike what I got out of it at times. There are some great possibilities with the architecture and the way things can be routed. AND some interesting implementations with the FX one does not normally see. Not bad. Not bad 'tall. But no more synths here. Someone will enjoy the hell out of this though.