DUNE 3 is now available!!

[BONES]

Nice if I had a just intonation preset tuning file lying around but, AFAIK, I don't. Even if I did, I can see no means of importing it into Kontakt. I found where to load them in Hive but it doesn't include Just Intonation so, like I said, no help at all.

[anomandaris1]

Dude, you are just lazy to research on your own and probably very uneducated on working with Kontakt->open some kind of factory library instrument->Script editor->Presets->Factory->Tuning->Microtuning->Edit->preset "Pure" is some kind of just intonation; preset "Overtone 8-16" is another JI - octave reduced harmonics - not the most useful tuning for Western harmony, but it is known that it was popular even in many places in Europe. In addition you can select 3 types of medieval tuning and some baroque and classical tunings.

For creating and exporting tun files for u-he and other synths, maybe try Scala or this - a webpage -https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop/- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hginh_dGJLU - here is a tutorial for the webpage, but on youtube you can find tutorials for Scala - which is also free.

Type
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This is one of the simplest interpretations of the Western scale- and it has wolf intervals, if you temper 128/125 you get something very-very-very close to 12 equal, if you temper 81/80, you get (depending on the algorithm used) 12 note selection out of 19, 31, 43, 50, 55 etc equal. (and it will one of the modes of the Kontakt factory classical meantone presets)

If you use
16/15
9/8
6/5
81/64
4/3
64/45
3/2
8/5
27/16
9/5
15/8
2
you can get something like traditional Indian scale - here the unisons vectors are 81/80 and 2048/2025 - the first one is the difference between major and minor whole tones/seconds, so major third is split into two equal parts when it is tempered; the second one leads to a tritone tuning (instead of generating the scale by stacking a perfect fifths modulo octave, we do it modulo a tritone - which is the square root of 2, so the generated scale is a mode of limited transpositions)- and 12 note selection out of 34, 46 or 80 equal gives us the tempered version of it - play double harmonic scale or harmonic minor there - diatonic music requires enharmonic shifts to work in such system, so it's not recommended unless you know what are you doing.

105.882
211.765
317.647
388.235
494.118
600.000
705.882
811.765
917.647
988.235
1094.118
1200.
this is the tempered version in 34 equal in cents.

And here is the most popular scale in middle east - makam Rast using 24 equal
200.
350.
500.
700.
900.
1050.
1200.
(Practical Arabic gamuts should be something like 7->10->17->24 notes , so there is no 12 note version, but if you search, you can find online 17 notes tunings for oud or some similar instrument)

Anyway, I can't wait for Dune to get microtonality to make some fat, microtonal trance leads.

[digitalboytn]

Dude, you are just lazy to research on your own and probably very uneducated on working with Kontakt

This could get a little explosive

[clipnotic]

Dude, you are just lazy to research on your own and probably very uneducated on working with Kontakt ...

Well, I'm not using NI products since years. I bought many stuff from them but especially with "Kontakt" I had always problems with bugs and that are not out of tuning bugs ...

[Kees49]

Indeed, the finest quality at a very reasonable CPU hit. Synapse Audio makes the best intruments, that I know for sure! I am looking forward to his OBX-a and P600 emulations.

[porieux]

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Dude, you are just lazy to research on your own and probably very uneducated on working with Kontakt->open some kind of factory library instrument->Script editor->Presets->Factory->Tuning->Microtuning->Edit->preset "Pure" is some kind of just intonation; preset "Overtone 8-16" is another JI - octave reduced harmonics - not the most useful tuning for Western harmony, but it is known that it was popular even in many places in Europe. In addition you can select 3 types of medieval tuning and some baroque and classical tunings.

For creating and exporting tun files for u-he and other synths, maybe try Scala or this - a webpage -https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop/- (https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop/-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hginh_dGJLU - here is a tutorial for the webpage, but on youtube you can find tutorials for Scala - which is also free.

Type
16/15
10/9
6/5
5/4
4/3
25/18
3/2
8/5
5/3
16/9
15/8
2
This is one of the simplest interpretations of the Western scale- and it has wolf intervals, if you temper 128/125 you get something very-very-very close to 12 equal, if you temper 81/80, you get (depending on the algorithm used) 12 note selection out of 19, 31, 43, 50, 55 etc equal. (and it will one of the modes of the Kontakt factory classical meantone presets)

If you use
16/15
9/8
6/5
81/64
4/3
64/45
3/2
8/5
27/16
9/5
15/8
2
you can get something like traditional Indian scale - here the unisons vectors are 81/80 and 2048/2025 - the first one is the difference between major and minor whole tones/seconds, so major third is split into two equal parts when it is tempered; the second one leads to a tritone tuning (instead of generating the scale by stacking a perfect fifths modulo octave, we do it modulo a tritone - which is the square root of 2, so the generated scale is a mode of limited transpositions)- and 12 note selection out of 34, 46 or 80 equal gives us the tempered version of it - play double harmonic scale or harmonic minor there - diatonic music requires enharmonic shifts to work in such system, so it's not recommended unless you know what are you doing.

105.882
211.765
317.647
388.235
494.118
600.000
705.882
811.765
917.647
988.235
1094.118
1200.
this is the tempered version in 34 equal in cents.

And here is the most popular scale in middle east - makam Rast using 24 equal
200.
350.
500.
700.
900.
1050.
1200.
(Practical Arabic gamuts should be something like 7->10->17->24 notes , so there is no 12 note version, but if you search, you can find online 17 notes tunings for oud or some similar instrument)

Anyway, I can't wait for Dune to get microtonality to make some fat, microtonal trance leads.

You have the patience of a saint. Great post too.

[SoundLight]

Ive seen alot of people are mentioning Microtuning. Where you are actually going to use such feature? why is it needed?

It is needed, because once you adapt to a tuning that is out of tune, it will start to sound normal and in tune - like now has happened with ( so called but not really ) equal temperament

If you are truely interested, and not a troll

Check out the Math of Equal Temperament, and you will see that all explanations about it being the best compromise, do not hold any water, even mathematically ( it is less in tune proportionally than many other tunings, like Kirnberger 3, or others that are the True Well Temperament )

Equal Temperament is just a name, and most people advocating it only quote each other, and no one has bothered to check their beliefs

And

If you want to make music that sounds great ( compare the tunes of Jimi Hendrix, Beethoven, Back, The Funk Brothers / Motown ) Your synths, must be in tune

[SoundLight]

So yea, if you want to make real music... the only way is to ( micro tune and ) have your instruments in tune

[SoundLight]

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[SoundLight]

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[Teksonik]

So yea, if you want to make real music... the only way is to ( micro tune and ) have your instruments in tune

I wonder how many millions of albums of "real music" were sold over decades using......

[chk071]

TBH, I thought the same when I read this.

[SoundLight]

So yea, if you want to make real music... the only way is to ( micro tune and ) have your instruments in tune

I wonder how many millions of albums of "real music" were sold over decades using......

Okay, Believe what you will

[SoundLight]

TBH, I thought the same when I read this.

Okay, Believe what you will

[Teksonik]

Okay, Believe what you will

Not a matter of belief but a simple fact that a lot of very successful albums selling in the millions were done in common twelve-tone equal temperament so your statement:

So yea, if you want to make real music... the only way is to ( micro tune and ) have your instruments in tune

is incorrect in the common definition of "real" music.

I don't have anything against Microtuning being added to Dune 3 although I have no use for it but I do find the "oooh I'm so superior because I like micro-tuning" attitude I've seen in recent times to be really annoying.

Believe what you will indeed but don't be pompous about it.......