Very agreeable. I sometimes wish I had the nerve to do another analogue emu.anomandaris1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:51 pmSimple sounds, but sounds excellent. I have yet to hear a vst that sounds as fat as real Oberheimer synth.
A Synth is only as good as its presets
- u-he
- 28043 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
-
el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16368 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
...December 2019: U-heim Public BetaUrs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:16 pmVery agreeable. I sometimes wish I had the nerve to do another analogue emu.anomandaris1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:51 pmSimple sounds, but sounds excellent. I have yet to hear a vst that sounds as fat as real Oberheimer synth.
-
- KVRian
- 872 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
-
- addled muppet weed
- 105553 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
probably the amount of "it doesn't sound anything like a synth ive never actually heard in person whereas you had one to compare in the office " type posts that follow an emusleepcircle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:33 pmI didn't know you DIDN'T have the nerve to do it. What's so unnerving about it?
-
- KVRian
- 1134 posts since 22 Aug, 2004 from Edge City, the Low Country
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:31 pm...December 2019: U-heim Public BetaUrs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:16 pmVery agreeable. I sometimes wish I had the nerve to do another analogue emu.anomandaris1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:51 pmSimple sounds, but sounds excellent. I have yet to hear a vst that sounds as fat as real Oberheimer synth.
ReOB-Xa
-
- KVRian
- 872 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
oh. that would be understandable.
this is why we can't have nice things.
Last edited by sleepcircle on Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- KVRian
- 1457 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK
rOB-loX if you want to get the next generation of kids in
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
- u-he
- 28043 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Doing analogue models is the most taxing business I have yet encountered (followed by reverb design). Endless A/B comparisons, paired with "what is the difference, actually?". It wipes me out.sleepcircle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:33 pmI didn't know you DIDN'T have the nerve to do it. What's so unnerving about it?
-
fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
I don't think that Oberheim sound is much above good soft synths anymore.
-
- KVRian
- 1134 posts since 22 Aug, 2004 from Edge City, the Low Country
Maybe a controversial point, but doesn't a synth sound essentially different on every computer anyway?
They all have different (quality of) audio (re)producing equipment that might influence/colour the sound, no?
-
- KVRian
- 513 posts since 26 Nov, 2009
Well, maybe you are right and just with expert preset programming people can replicate anything.fluffy_little_something wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:45 pm I don't think that Oberheim sound is much above good soft synths anymore.
But can a digital - wavetable, FM, additive synth synth sound as "alive" as analogue synths? I guess the trick is the oscillators being unstable and filters very high quality. It would be interesting to hear some typical digital metallic/crystal/weird pads or leads sounding as "musical" as something analogue - it's ironic that imperfection sounds better than 100 % in tune, static waveforms.
-
- KVRian
- 872 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
it's not all nostalgia. a big part of it is the ballistic nature of electric current, and the endless self-interactions which create all that sonic interest and liveliness.
understandable. well, i wouldn't dream of trying to push you to do something that you didn't want to do. repro still offers a lot of room for my experimentation, what with all the self-oscillations and things.
Last edited by sleepcircle on Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- KVRian
- 1457 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK
Access to good sound engineers and producers might help too. Not something many people have access toanomandaris1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:56 pmWell, maybe you are right and just with expert preset programming people can replicate anything.fluffy_little_something wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:45 pm I don't think that Oberheim sound is much above good soft synths anymore.
But can a digital - wavetable, FM, additive synth synth sound as "alive" as analogue synths? I guess the trick is the oscillators being unstable and filters very high quality. It would be interesting to hear some typical digital metallic/crystal/weird pads or leads sounding as "musical" as something analogue - it's ironic that imperfection sounds better than 100 % in tune, static waveforms.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
-
- KVRian
- 1134 posts since 22 Aug, 2004 from Edge City, the Low Country
anomandaris1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:56 pmWell, maybe you are right and just with expert preset programming people can replicate anything.fluffy_little_something wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:45 pm I don't think that Oberheim sound is much above good soft synths anymore.
But can a digital - wavetable, FM, additive synth synth sound as "alive" as analogue synths? I guess the trick is the oscillators being unstable and filters very high quality. It would be interesting to hear some typical digital metallic/crystal/weird pads or leads sounding as "musical" as something analogue - it's ironic that imperfection sounds better than 100 % in tune, static waveforms.
Also the synth's keyboard can add to how the sound is perceived. A sound played directly with the synth's keyboard can in finess sound quite differently than the same sound played from a computer or by Midi.
(On my JX-3P (no velocity) I could do things within the attack of a sound that were not possible when played via the computer or by Midi!)
.. and for your last remark: that's called the human condition!
Last edited by ZeePok on Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.