Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

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pixel85
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627 posts since 11 Apr, 2008

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:10 am

As I agree with this I'm still more interested in MX than other big synths like PP or MSF even that both seems to have enormous amount of features and more (maybe because both have very uninspiring GUI ;) ). I hope that those new osc modes will really give pleasant workflow and interesting results like og Massive do.
don't use plugin/s in this topic! It has aliasing at -196dB and 60fps

SLiC
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:20 am

Easy and fun workflow with good visual feedback etc certainly count for a lot - Pigment and Hive 2 certainly excel in this...there is a lot of choice! as long as the GUI resizes I will be happy :D
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Stokely
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:13 am

SLiC wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:20 am
Easy and fun workflow with good visual feedback etc certainly count for a lot - Pigment and Hive 2 certainly excel in this...there is a lot of choice! as long as the GUI resizes I will be happy :D
The size thing is a big deal to me. I literally can't read some plugins on my macbook pro--have to rely on my 1080p 25" monitor (which is old, and blows things up at that combo of rez and size!)

Native Instruments is a prime offender. Hopefully they get with the program. I really like their products but they aren't the easiest to use.

As an aside, I had an "urge to kill rising" moment yesterday using Replika...trying to turn the damn delay time knob down (I was in millisecond mode) past a certain point made it start going up again lol! It was maddening, I was doing gymnastics with my damn mouse trying to get that thing to behave...that can't have been tested much, I figure they said "everyone will be in sync, just test that mode".....

ghettosynth
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:23 am

Stokely wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:13 am
SLiC wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:20 am
Easy and fun workflow with good visual feedback etc certainly count for a lot - Pigment and Hive 2 certainly excel in this...there is a lot of choice! as long as the GUI resizes I will be happy :D
The size thing is a big deal to me. I literally can't read some plugins on my macbook pro--have to rely on my 1080p 25" monitor (which is old, and blows things up at that combo of rez and size!)

Native Instruments is a prime offender. Hopefully they get with the program. I really like their products but they aren't the easiest to use.

As an aside, I had an "urge to kill rising" moment yesterday using Replika...trying to turn the damn delay time knob down (I was in millisecond mode) past a certain point made it start going up again lol! It was maddening, I was doing gymnastics with my damn mouse trying to get that thing to behave...that can't have been tested much, I figure they said "everyone will be in sync, just test that mode".....
Really, maschine is the answer to this.

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EvilDragon
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 pm

MX GUI is resizeable, worry not.

Stokely wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:13 am
As an aside, I had an "urge to kill rising" moment yesterday using Replika...trying to turn the damn delay time knob down (I was in millisecond mode) past a certain point made it start going up again lol! It was maddening, I was doing gymnastics with my damn mouse trying to get that thing to behave...that can't have been tested much, I figure they said "everyone will be in sync, just test that mode".....
No problems with Time knob when set to ms here. Which mouse are you using?

Stokely
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:49 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 pm
MX GUI is resizeable, worry not.

Stokely wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:13 am
As an aside, I had an "urge to kill rising" moment yesterday using Replika...trying to turn the damn delay time knob down (I was in millisecond mode) past a certain point made it start going up again lol! It was maddening, I was doing gymnastics with my damn mouse trying to get that thing to behave...that can't have been tested much, I figure they said "everyone will be in sync, just test that mode".....
No problems with Time knob when set to ms here. Which mouse are you using?
couldn't tell you right offhand (at work). The issue only came about when I got down below 300 ms or so. Then if I kept moving the mouse the values would begin to go back up. I could flail quickly and get it down to 0, then carefully inch it up to the value I wanted in a one-way trip (took me a few tries!), so a workaround :)

Anyway didn't mean to take this off-topic. Normally I just use 1/4, 1/8 etc but in this case I was mixing some live tracks that were not to a click.

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jancivil
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:50 pm

With Shift held down, those values increment or decrement 1ms at a time here. It is however a bit fiddly with a trackpad.

c1c2
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202 posts since 12 Jan, 2005 from Germany

Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:19 pm

No problem here either, tested very short delay times from 1 to 20 today for some kind of resonant effect with replica. Wish the steps were smaller...but that's completely OT now.

dannyhawaii
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Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:18 am

Off topic, but if anyone has issues with mouse handling on OSX Mojave, you need to make sure that your DAW has accessibility permissions enabled: https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Kno ... ta-p/44699

Breach The Sky
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56 posts since 8 Oct, 2018

Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:18 am

So, what happend to the rest of the blogposts etc NI was going to do? I was under the impression that they had all sorts of behind the scene stuff coming. Not that I really care, it's just interesting to read you know..

realtrance
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157 posts since 10 Aug, 2006

Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:46 am

I’m sure they are quite busy at the moment.

I’d rather NI were busier developing than marketing. :)

As to the CPU thing, I’m just amazed my lonely little Core 2 Duo- based Mac laptop runs everything I use as smoothly as it does!

I will remain content, and when it comes time to spend $3-$4k for an “upgrade,”..... I’ll spend that kind of money on a Waldorf Quantum instead. ;)

Less portable, granted, but much more fun! :)

And I have loads of software that will work on my laptop already, and will keep working until its aluminium chassis turns to dust — which is about a thousand years from now.

v1o
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:03 am

June 27 is eight days away. It feels like the clock is ticking towards a massive delay.
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noiseboyuk
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:09 am

v1o wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:03 am
June 27 is eight days away. It feels like the clock is ticking towards a massive delay.
Personally doubt that. The 27th only appeared as a date a couple of weeks ago - it would be very odd indeed to announce that only to then kick it forward a few months. If I were being cynical, I'd have thought a lot of 1.0 bugs were more likely than another delay :)
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:10 am

wagtunes wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:57 am
In this day and age where you can create a track and freeze it, does CPU usage really mean that much? I mean I have plenty of songs where I'm using 40 to 50 tracks of some pretty CPU intensive synths. I'm sure as hell not doing that without freezing them, including freezing the FX which, in some cases, take up more CPU than the synth it's on. Go try running multiple instances of some of Melda's plugins without having to freeze tracks. Let me know how you make out.
Freeze tracks is a work around rather than a legitimate daily workflow. Can you imagine having to constantly freeze and unfreeze 50 to 60 tracks both in the writing and mixing stages of a production. How much extra mousing about is that? Just thinking about it gives me carpal tunnel syndrome.
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EvilDragon
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Coming June 27th)

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:20 am

Doesn't have to be mousing at all when you have it on a key command. :P

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