KVR Audio

beely · Post by **beely** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:05 pm

All I can tell you is it's still on my list to do...

Life's just been continually reshaping that list significantly recently... at least it doesn't stop anyone using and enjoying the plugin anyway!

tristan- · Post by **tristan-** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:14 pm

beely wrote:All I can tell you is it's still on my list to do...

Life's just been continually reshaping that list significantly recently... at least it doesn't stop anyone using and enjoying the plugin anyway!

It's too time consuming to do as a side fan project, imho, it would've been great if someone took the chore but its asking alot. Thanks for trying!

gregsimon · Post by **gregsimon** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:49 pm

I was looking at this as well, hoping it would be as simple as:

1. Reading (via sysex) the patch data from a real SR-JV80-** card installed in a real JV host.
2. Translating that into a "Bank" file that can be loaded into the JV-1080 VST.

It's pretty trival to reverse engineer the Bank file format. I used a hex diff and modified one param at a time and you can build a map.

It's also trival to read the sysex from a SR-JV80-** host (e.g., a REAL JV-1080, JV-1010, etc).

The main issue is the not all the waves from the complete SR-JV80-** are included in the JV-1080 VST. A quick check reveals this: look at the waveform list[1] for the SR-JV80-04 (Vintage Synth). None of the "MG" waveforms are in the JV-1080 VST. Or, they have been renamed to something which you'd have to sit there with a real JV (card) and the VST and build a map.

Happy to be shown I'm wrong

1. http://www.planet-groove.com/roland/sr-jv80-04.txt

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:01 pm

MG waveforms are in there. They even have the same names.

Wave group has to be set to SRX, and then MG waveforms are 352-359, 389-391, 413-414, 430-433 (430 is wrongly numbered as 420), 443-444, 450-452, 487-492, 524-525, 548-553, 563-564.

Your quick check wasn't particularly thorough.

The plugin contains everything SRX Keyboards contained, which does include the whole Vintage Synths ROM as well.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:10 pm

EvilDragon wrote:MG waveforms are in there. They even have the same names.

Wave group has to be set to SRX, and then MG waveforms are 352-359, 389-391, 413-414, 430-433 (430 is wrongly numbered as 420), 443-444, 450-452, 487-492, 524-525, 548-553, 563-564.

Your quick check wasn't particularly thorough. The plugin contains everything SRX Keyboards contained, which does include the whole Vintage Synths ROM as well.

now the question, can you import all the vintage synth presets as well?

still not in the studio :/

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:42 pm

There's no sysex import option there.

gregsimon · Post by **gregsimon** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:56 pm

Wow, that's awesome. How do you set the wave group to SRX? It wasn't obvious to me.

Caine123: The MIDI implementation says it's possible. I've written code to translate Integra patches before. When I can figuire out how to set the SRX group as pointed out above, I'll ebay order an old JV unit and card to prove it.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:56 pm

EvilDragon wrote:There's no sysex import option there.

wow these %$%$&§ edited the infopage?

here a pic that it was written in there ?

gregsimon · Post by **gregsimon** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:58 pm

EvilDragon wrote:There's no sysex import option there.

Correct, but can you can write out a binary Bank file, and then load that Bank file into the VST. This worked fine for me when I used a hex editor to adjust some values.

gregsimon · Post by **gregsimon** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:01 pm

To be clear, my personal interest is building up a (VST) bank for each of the SR-JV80-** cards, just how they originaly shipped.

gregsimon · Post by **gregsimon** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:45 pm

EvilDragon wrote:MG waveforms are in there. They even have the same names.

Wave group has to be set to SRX, and then MG waveforms are 352-359, 389-391, 413-414, 430-433 (430 is wrongly numbered as 420), 443-444, 450-452, 487-492, 524-525, 548-553, 563-564.

Your quick check wasn't particularly thorough. The plugin contains everything SRX Keyboards contained, which does include the whole Vintage Synths ROM as well.

Ah, I see, they are in the SRX Keyboards VST, not in the JV-1080 VST.

gregsimon · Post by **gregsimon** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:04 am

Well, I'm able to read out the patch data from the hardware. Here's part of patch 46 from SR-JV80-09 Sessions, for example. I've also mapped about half of the SRX Keyboads Bank file binary format, which is where I'm planning on translating/writing it to.

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{"name":"Ethno-Trumps","efxType":21,"efxParams":[0,24,24,54,47,89,80,0,127,50,50,127],"efxOutputAssign":0,"efxMixOutSendLevel":127,"efxChorusSendLevel":127,"efxReverbSendLevel":127,"efxControlSource1":0,"efxControlDepth1":63,"efxControlSource2":0,"efxControlDepth2":63,"chorusLevel":67,"chorusRate":4,"chorusDepth":9,"chorusPreDelay":0,"chorusFeedback":65,"chorusOutput":2,"reverbType":5,"reverbLevel":92,"reverbTime":69,"reverbHFDamp":14,"delayFeedback":0,"patchTempo":[7,8],"patchLevel":122,"patchPan":64,"analogFeel":8,"bendRangeUp":2,"bendRangeDown":2,"keyAssignMode":0,"soloLegato":0,"portamentoSwitch":0,"portamentoMode":1,"portamentoType":1,"portamentoStart":1,"portamentoTime":72,"patchControlSource2":1,"patchControlSource3":2,"efxControlHoldPeak":0,"controlHoldPeak":[0,0,0],"velocityRangeSwitch":0,"octaveShift":3,"stretchTuneDepth":0,"voicePriority":0,"structureType1and2":0,"booster1and2":0,"clockSource":0,"patchCategory":19}

 {"toneSwitch":1,"waveGroupType":2,"waveGroupId":9,"waveGroupNumber":[4,9],"waveGain":2,"fxmSwitch":0,"fxmColor":1,"fxmDepth":0,"toneDelayMode":0,"toneDelayTime":0,"velocityCrossFade":0,"velocityRange":[1,127],"keyboardRange":[0,127],"redamperControlSwitch":0,"volumeControlSwitch":1,"hold1ControlSwitch":1,"pitchBendControlSwitch":1,"panControlSwitch":1,"controller":[[[9,72],[0,63],[0,63],[0,63]],[[9,70],[2,69],[4,68],[0,63]],[[4,80],[0,63],[0,63],[0,63]]],"lfo":[{"waveform":1,"keySync":1,"rate":91,"offset":2,"delayTime":13,"fadeMode":0,"fadeTime":61,"externalSync":0},{"waveform":0,"keySync":1,"rate":97,"offset":2,"delayTime":0,"fadeMode":0,"fadeTime":0,"externalSync":0}]}

tristan- · Post by **tristan-** » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:41 pm

I guess we're set according to Roland -

Import SYSEX (*.syx) files and enjoy your favorite, previously created SRX series patches

part of the 5.6 update to RC.

beely · Post by **beely** » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:27 pm

Roland Cloud is currently on version 5.808.

There is no sysex import on the 1080/SRX plugins yet, it was incorrect info in the description that was shortly removed.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:32 pm

beely wrote:Roland Cloud is currently on version 5.808.

There is no sysex import on the 1080/SRX plugins yet, it was incorrect info in the description that was shortly removed.

bummer, i was happy a few secs

Roland JV-1080 finally, as virtual instrument!