Tone2 I2 vs Trueno Analog
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
First i was like "WTF", but that's actually not a bad concept. It lacks one important thing about hardware synths for me though: The hands on of a real machine, and knobs and controls to tweak. I have my doubts that it will become very popular. I mean, who falls in love with a USB stick? That's like offering car buyers the engine, but not the whole car. Seriously doubtful here.
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- KVRAF
- 11175 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
This seems to have come out of the blue.
Selling on Amazon it seems, expected in next few days ...139 GBP.
Hardware analog for software prices....
Mono/para but still, pretty impressive technology, I would be interested to hear one myself.
I guess Elektron did this first with the A4 and overbridge, but at a different price point.
The key thing for me will be how this records to the DAW, Overbridge somehow works like Virus TI in that it records without having to select it as a sound card (it aggregates) this will need to do the same.
Selling on Amazon it seems, expected in next few days ...139 GBP.
Hardware analog for software prices....
Mono/para but still, pretty impressive technology, I would be interested to hear one myself.
I guess Elektron did this first with the A4 and overbridge, but at a different price point.
The key thing for me will be how this records to the DAW, Overbridge somehow works like Virus TI in that it records without having to select it as a sound card (it aggregates) this will need to do the same.
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- KVRAF
- 25421 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Seems interesting... I appreciate a fresh concept!chk071 wrote:First i was like "WTF", but that's actually not a bad concept. It lacks one important thing about hardware synths for me though: The hands on of a real machine, and knobs and controls to tweak. I have my doubts that it will become very popular. I mean, who falls in love with a USB stick? That's like offering car buyers the engine, but not the whole car. Seriously doubtful here.
One funny thing... "Trueno has three highly stable digitally controlled VCOs with automatic tuning"
Uh... if it is digitally controlled, it is not a VCO
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Yes, yes it can be. Example: Alesis Andromeda, Korg Minilogue. Both have VCOs that have some digital circuitry compensating for temperature drifts - not producing the timing for the oscillators from a master crystal clock like DCOs do. On Andromeda this can even be disabled, so you get a proper vintage drifting-as-fk VCO.pdxindy wrote:Seems interesting... I appreciate a fresh concept!chk071 wrote:First i was like "WTF", but that's actually not a bad concept. It lacks one important thing about hardware synths for me though: The hands on of a real machine, and knobs and controls to tweak. I have my doubts that it will become very popular. I mean, who falls in love with a USB stick? That's like offering car buyers the engine, but not the whole car. Seriously doubtful here.
One funny thing... "Trueno has three highly stable digitally controlled VCOs with automatic tuning"
Uh... if it is digitally controlled, it is not a VCO
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- 697 posts since 29 Oct, 2016
When the world has been a hard place, good things can be difficult to accept. Looking over the website, I see no reason why this isn't technically possible. The only question is how they pulled off the price. I would expect this to cost triple what they are asking given the requirements.egbert101 wrote:Maybe the name is a sign of trolling. "True No".
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- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I find it amazing that they get tech which was really large 30 years ago in a USB stick now... Again though, with high quality analog emus in software form, i'm not sure if it really is an advantage in having a real analog which you control via a software GUI anyway. I mean, if it sounded like a Moog, it might have a point, but, i'm not sure about that.
- KVRAF
- 7358 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I might respect it more if they'd say what the design was.For Trueno’s oscillators, we took a highly respected modular VCO design and adapted it for digital control.
The Windows 8+ requirement kills it for me too, though I'm kind of not really in the market anyway. With all the modular stuff I have, my favorite oscillators are digital...
- KVRAF
- 2117 posts since 24 Feb, 2004 from Germany
Nice idea. But why there is no analog output (to drive external hardware effects etc.)? Now one has to deal with the ADC latency plus the asio latency while playing. Sending the signal to other hardware gear means Trueno ADC > Interface DAC > Interface ADC. And it's 44khz only.
And no Windows 7. I won't upgrade again (and throw away my audio interface that doesn't have Win8-drivers....)
And no Windows 7. I won't upgrade again (and throw away my audio interface that doesn't have Win8-drivers....)
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
P900...there are a few more...even on my iPhone.wagtunes wrote:You don't think that bottom end and that filter sound really, really good? I can't think of a soft synth I have that has the rich a sound.Cinebient wrote:They can....my opinion. It sounds good but not better than some analog virtual i like to use.wagtunes wrote:Okay, so why can't they make soft synths sound like that?Vertion wrote:Demo Song (all Trueno).wagtunes wrote:Oh well, for me it's a moot point since it currently doesn't run on Windows 7. But it looks interesting. Hardware on a stick that can load into a DAW.
I'm honestly intrigued.
http://truenosynth.com/wp-content/uploa ... 20Demo.mp3
But if you think there's one that does, let me know which one. I'm pretty sure I have it.
But i do love the concept really.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Wait, isn't that the one that isn't Windows yet?Cinebient wrote:P900wagtunes wrote:You don't think that bottom end and that filter sound really, really good? I can't think of a soft synth I have that has the rich a sound.Cinebient wrote:They can....my opinion. It sounds good but not better than some analog virtual i like to use.wagtunes wrote:Okay, so why can't they make soft synths sound like that?Vertion wrote:Demo Song (all Trueno).wagtunes wrote:Oh well, for me it's a moot point since it currently doesn't run on Windows 7. But it looks interesting. Hardware on a stick that can load into a DAW.
I'm honestly intrigued.
http://truenosynth.com/wp-content/uploa ... 20Demo.mp3
But if you think there's one that does, let me know which one. I'm pretty sure I have it.