SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

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chaosWyrM
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1827 posts since 29 Apr, 2010 from NYC

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:46 pm

hmmmm.....i m not feeling confident about this. i sent this support request:
hello....i just installed dust. im using it in fl studio on a win7 computer.first off...installing as a vst3 failed as it dropped a .dll file into the vst3 folder instead of a .vst3 file...so my daw couldnt see it.also the installer failed with access violations multiple times.i did finally get it installed as a vst2....but im having an issue where i cant click anything. dong so either does nothing or more often opens menus that instantly close before i can select anything. also trying to click things completely crashes fl studio...this happened 3 times in 15 minutes.

thanks for your help.
and got this response:
Hey ****** ,

Ive sent a message to our programmer.

I let you know asap, when it is fixed.

Thanks,
Yan
:roll:

at least i didnt pay full price for it. id be extra pissed if i spent 100 bucks on this disaster.
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Caine123
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5825 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:48 pm

besides the missing fx and bugs how is the thing? easy? how does the mangling and engine sound? is it really easy to make unique and nice sounding soundscapes/drones?
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chaosWyrM
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Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:53 pm

Caine123 wrote:besides the missing fx and bugs how is the thing? easy? how does the mangling and engine sound? is it really easy to make unique and nice sounding soundscapes/drones?
eh...like i said...im not impressed with the sounds it produces. if you want easy unique soundscapes and drones...dron-e for reaktor coupled with custom sample maps is absolutely unbeatable.

i would suggest ambitron or psybox...except those are unavailable and you cant get them. both of those make more interesting soundscapes and drones and are easier to use than dust. (that is my current opinion having only used it a little bit, my opinion may or may not change with time)
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pottering
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735 posts since 14 Dec, 2014

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:35 pm

wasi wrote:There's also only a VSTi version (at least at this point) so if you're with Ableton you're stuck with no audio in anyway.
Don't know about Dust, but VST 2 instruments can have audio in, and Ableton can sidechain audio into a VSTi just fine.

Not to mention you can load it inside Bidule, IL Minihost, etc. just fine in Live (and other DAWs).

mcbpete
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1550 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:12 pm

From looking at the 10 minute tutorial is seems like Madrona Labs' Kaivo but with considerably less modulation flexibility and a bit more of a CPU sapping GUI. Would that be fair or am I way off the mark ?

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exmatproton
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2381 posts since 25 Apr, 2011

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:14 pm

mcbpete wrote:From looking at the 10 minute tutorial is seems like Madrona Labs' Kaivo but with considerably less modulation flexibility and a bit more of a CPU sapping GUI. Would that be fair or am I way off the mark ?
No, kaivo is really something else. In kaivo one can play in tune. This Dust is more like a granular wave player with some (modulating) playing positions (in relation to the center soundstage). Kaivo is more an instrument, Dust is more like a FX machine.

*edit* also, Kaivo is way more cpu hungry per voice.

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Numanoid
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25895 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:22 pm

SoundMorph has an extensive CV of such products, like TimeFlux or WaveWarper

But those where all standalone, Dust is their first journey into making DAW ready plugs

https://www.soundmorph.com/products/2/software

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Numanoid
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Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:44 pm

With code Winter Timeflux can be had for $48,3

I think I want that even more than dust :hyper:

Our Simon checking it out, not quite impressed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwIgdWwTl7c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iQxqvZB_rU
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Kalamata Kid
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3828 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:35 pm

The ad below from 2015. Darn it! I am a bit too late!
But in any case these are standalone so it is a deal breaker.
For me this is very interesting and desirable software.
Too bad not VST! Very disappointed.

A couple of threads
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=420535
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=395163

https://www.soundmorph.com/?page=home

Postby Numanoid; Jun 23 2015 05:16
Re: Soundmorph TimeFlux and Wave Warper......any comments?
Numanoid wrote:It's got an update now, and bundle looks tempting:

http://soundmorph.com/?page=home

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Numanoid
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Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:38 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:The ad below from 2015. Darn it! I am a bit too late!
But with the winter code you can get both WaveWarper and TimeFlux for less than $50 each

So unless you really wanted Galactic assistant it aint that much of a loss.

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secretkillerofnames
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577 posts since 9 Jul, 2012

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:07 pm

It doesn't validate in Logic and there isn't an audio input node.
Other than that it has been working fine for me. I like it.
Hopefully their programmer isn't a disgruntled hobgoblin from kotaku cave.

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3828 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:28 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote:The ad below from 2015. Darn it! I am a bit too late!
But with the winter code you can get both WaveWarper and TimeFlux for less than $50 each

So unless you really wanted Galactic assistant it aint that much of a loss.
Must have missed the $50 code.
Very interested but not as stand alone.
How much less?

You are right not TimeFlux.
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Numanoid
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Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:32 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:How much less?
Example: Add Timeflux to your basket at $69, apply WINTER code, get it at $48,3

Be sure to check out some vids of it first though. Our Simon (Stockhausen) is not at all impressed, so it aint for everybody.

With the bad reports on Dust and comments like Simon's, makes me wary that SoundMorph could be another Sonivox, great presentation of the gear, but little else.

As they don't offer demos, it is difficult to get real impressions of the gear without having to buy it.

Kalamata Kid
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3828 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:58 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote:How much less?
Example: Add Timeflux to your basket at $69, apply WINTER code, get it at $48,3

Be sure to check out some vids of it first though. Our Simon (Stockhausen) is not at all impressed, so it aint for everybody.

With the bad reports on Dust and comments like Simon's, makes me wary that SoundMorph could be another Sonivox, great presentation of the gear, but little else.

As they don't offer demos, it is difficult to get real impressions of the gear without having to buy it.
I always respect and seek Simon’s opinion on plugins.
If a plugin is discounted for Black Friday I will spend the money regardless of opinions.
You can’t go wrong with $1 or even $10.

Any time samples are stacked I am very interested.

Got Octomorph for 9.99€
http://vstbuzz.com/deals/82-off-octomor ... sound-lab/
Hope to try it soon.

Also had considered glitchmachines http://glitchmachines.com/
Polygon and Cataract. I will wait for a crazy low price or the V2 release.
Now I see some similarities to Glitchmachines
“All sounds included were carefully crafted by SoundMorph and Ivo Ivanov of Glitchmachines”

Ok spent $1 SONiVOX on Orchestral Companion - Strings
at Plugin Boutique
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Daags
KVRAF
2196 posts since 19 Dec, 2014

Re: New from SoundMorph: Dust, granular flow motion

Post Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:25 pm

SoundMorph have a much better marketing team/guy than they do coding. imo.

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