KVR Audio

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:53 pm

As a online shop, if you offer world wide, you have to make sure that your payment provider, or your own payment system accounts for VAT that has to be discharged at the buyer's country.

The way i understand it, vendors even have to take care of country, or region specific stuff like laws regarding the resales of plugins, and the EULA's have to be country specific too. You can see how bugged this whole thing is. I'm all for simplicity, not coplications. If a vendor disallows the resale of plugins, i'll act accordingly, and, if i really think i want to sell the plugin at some point, i just won't buy plugins which are NFR. I must say that i never did that though.

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:01 pm

My point was that if the the online shop does not charge VAT, it's actually up to you as the purchaser to take this up in your declaration and pay the VAT yourself. And to extend the point, I was wondering who of these people who are claiming not allowing re-selling of software actually do this?

It's only illegal when someone else is doing something they "believe" is illegal (because of a document that probably wouldn't hold up in court since the parameters are completely different in these cases), but it's not illegal when they do something wrong?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:06 pm

starflakeprj wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:01 pm My point was that if the the online shop does not charge VAT, it's actually up to you as the purchaser to take this up in your declaration and pay the VAT yourself.

Nope. The online shops are responsible in that case.

See here: https://www.webinterpret.com/us/blog/ne ... ecommerce/

adamszabo · Post by **adamszabo** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:47 pm

AnX wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:17 pm
adamtrance wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:06 pm use the Products solely for your personal, non-commercial purposes strictly in accordance with the terms of this Agreement

what exactly does "non commercial" mean?

you cant use it to make a film score or hit record?

No, it means that the buyer wont start selling the software to others

sfd · Post by **sfd** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:33 pm

phreaque wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:48 am
sfd wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:45 am Great !
I already have a JP6K license. So how do I go about updating to the 64-bit version ?
Download the latest version, install and configure the same license.

Don't remember. Do my license unlock the demo ?

Kian Russell · Post by **Kian Russell** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:45 pm

adamtrance wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:35 pm Yes I know about that, Its a problem deep in FlowStone and I cannot do anything bout it until they fix it. I hope they can sort this out soon so I can include it in an update asap.

I hate to say it but let this be a lesson to any developer thinking of taking any shortcuts when developing a Synth.
Don't ever use Synth Edit, Flowstone or whatever.
Code your own Synth from the ground up and never ever be a prisoner to a 3rd party.
Shame really coz the Viper looks quite cool but is obviously riddled with bugs that the developer can't fix unless the developer above fixes.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

jacqueslacouth · Post by **jacqueslacouth** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:56 pm

Twaddle

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:05 pm

It's weird indeed, but, i guess the laws have to be changed to account for more and more international businesses. Obviously, it already has become a lot easier for online stores which offer internationally now.

jacqueslacouth · Post by **jacqueslacouth** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:10 am

Irrelevant

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:50 am

The micro CPU spikes are not in every FS VSTi
I have none in Biotic-
I installed Bitwig and looped up some 4 note chords->
- I think Adam could possibly reassess fixing it

D.K Envelope · Post by **D.K Envelope** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:04 am

viper really sounds good but it make not fun to progamm own patches because of the knobs stuttering but iam sure adam work on it

so lets see was the time brings

adamszabo · Post by **adamszabo** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:31 am

Kian Russell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:45 pm Shame really coz the Viper looks quite cool but is obviously riddled with bugs that the developer can't fix unless the developer above fixes.

No, its not riddled with bugs, there is basically one bug left, which is this spike. It is caused by when I use Ruby code to handle midi data. Other FlowStone synths dont have this who only use standard modules for midi handling. As you know Viper has an advanced arpeggiator which can only be done with Ruby, and then the cpu spikes occur.

Kian Russell wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:45 pm I hate to say it but let this be a lesson to any developer thinking of taking any shortcuts when developing a Synth.
Don't ever use Synth Edit, Flowstone or whatever.

I already explained it many times over and over why I used FlowStone, and not developed it from the ground up with C++ or Juice or whatever

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:38 am

I can reproduce the spikes issue when using an FS Ruby sequencer.
News to me, hmm
-I need this FlowStone fix too

D.K Envelope · Post by **D.K Envelope** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:42 am

two bugs not one
dont forget the knob stuttering that drives me crazy

Vertion · Post by **Vertion** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:57 am

Viper｜1.2.2 update with bugfixes and new skin