Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - summer sale -20% and new XP

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Razzia
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282 posts since 21 May, 2016

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:04 am

msvs wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:59 pm

guys, please stop requesting features which are already there ;)
But have you considered a feature that lets us scrub through several waveforms? Like a table of waveforms. You could even call it a wavetable, if you like :D

while you're at it, an arp module would be great

100tifiko
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272 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:13 am

Future request for the arp or real sequencer please add the ability to tie notes to create slides or add slide notes on the upcoming real sequencer and also it would be awsome to add in certain steps different modulation like filter cutoff or distortion or fm just in certain steps :pray:

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msvs
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1496 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:05 am

this all is already possible with a little bit of mod-matrix knowledge

100tifiko
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272 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:40 am

msvs wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:05 am
this all is already possible with a little bit of mod-matrix knowledge
Yes you are right and I did all with the mod envelopes but as far as tieing the notes for nice legato. I couldn't find a way I did use pitch bend with mod env but didn't sound what i wanted. How about if we can make the notes in the arp pass a little over to the next note to make this nice slides

100tifiko
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272 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:49 am

But I don't think this would work since its monophonic but hopefully the real sequencer behave like a piano roll so this could be possible. Thank

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ReboundAudio
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60 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:17 pm

Can you please fix the CPU spikes in Avenger 1.4.10 VST3 ? Thanks!
3 instances of Avenger with standard Presets from the Library and my new i9 9900X CPU says good bye!

Thank you!
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msvs
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1496 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:43 pm

100tifiko wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:40 am
msvs wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:05 am
this all is already possible with a little bit of mod-matrix knowledge
Yes you are right and I did all with the mod envelopes but as far as tieing the notes for nice legato. I couldn't find a way I did use pitch bend with mod env but didn't sound what i wanted. How about if we can make the notes in the arp pass a little over to the next note to make this nice slides
just use portamento legato on the OSC which goes into the ARP. This means that all notes, which are tied to each other will slide. To untie, you can either shorten them a bit or use the GATE knob of the ARP. Even a gate of 99% will make them untie and stop the glide. Sovyou could now automate the gate knob with the steq sq and do a modulation on certain steps, or instead just work with longer and shorter ARP notes to make the slide on the areas you like. You could also automate the porta legato switch on the pitch env page to to the same. No need to automate and pitchbends etc...!

Exclusiv Boys
KVRer
1 posts since 9 Jun, 2019

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:44 am

hello :) does anyone know when it will be Avengers Update to version 1.5.0 and where can it be purchased? :wink:

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msvs
KVRian
1496 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:29 am

no one here can know beside me, and I dont even know...
- it will be free btw

100tifiko
KVRist
272 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:39 am

msvs wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:43 pm
100tifiko wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:40 am
msvs wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:05 am
this all is already possible with a little bit of mod-matrix knowledge
Yes you are right and I did all with the mod envelopes but as far as tieing the notes for nice legato. I couldn't find a way I did use pitch bend with mod env but didn't sound what i wanted. How about if we can make the notes in the arp pass a little over to the next note to make this nice slides
just use portamento legato on the OSC which goes into the ARP. This means that all notes, which are tied to each other will slide. To untie, you can either shorten them a bit or use the GATE knob of the ARP. Even a gate of 99% will make them untie and stop the glide. Sovyou could now automate the gate knob with the steq sq and do a modulation on certain steps, or instead just work with longer and shorter ARP notes to make the slide on the areas you like. You could also automate the porta legato switch on the pitch env page to to the same. No need to automate and pitchbends etc...!
Thank you your awsome I just got it to do what i wanted to do also a great tip is to use the chord mode on single and add the sub and makes some cool glides on poly mode.

kaju74
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4 posts since 8 Aug, 2018

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:14 am

Hi,

I've a very old machine (> 8 years) with a Core I7 and updated it to a Ryzen 7 1800x. Before upgrading my hardware, I've tested it with an Trance2 XP preset which results in ~24% CPU usage. On my new machine, the same preset also tooks about ~24% CPU usage - is this normal?

Best regards,
Marc

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ReboundAudio
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60 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:12 am

kaju74 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:14 am
Hi,

I've a very old machine (> 8 years) with a Core I7 and updated it to a Ryzen 7 1800x. Before upgrading my hardware, I've tested it with an Trance2 XP preset which results in ~24% CPU usage. On my new machine, the same preset also tooks about ~24% CPU usage - is this normal?

Best regards,
Marc
Do not worry, Marc. I have the same problems with an Intel i9 9900X CPU with 4,600 MHz overclocking including water cooling and Avenger still reaches 70% with some presets. :D
After lengthy debates with the programmer and msvg, and after being banned from the facebook group, I will stop asking for performance issues. :shrug: I just say: Fix it please and I hope it gets fixed soon.

It seems they see this as a personal insults and not as an aid in making this synth the best synth ever.
Because it isn't the best yet. It is like a racing car with cut through brake hoses. You can not just drive as it would have to be driven.

Take it as it is. We can just hope they will awake one day.
Regards!
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kaju74
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4 posts since 8 Aug, 2018

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:53 am

Ohh---okay, I thought, it is optimized for modern cpu architectures - that's why I've bought a new computer with better hardware due of the bottleneck on my old machine while processing audio. On my old computer, I've also problems while using multiple instances of Neutron 2 plugins. In this case, Neutron 3 runs a way smoother on my old machine and doesn't peak so much on my new one. Hoping, VPS will be optimized in the future. I love this synth and what you can do with it....

mitchiemasha
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266 posts since 15 Aug, 2011 from teesside

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:27 am

Rebound...you're getting that issue with an i9!!! that's not right. I upgraded to the new i7 because i love Avenger and my old 3.4 wouldn't cut it. My i7 9700k is at 4.8, I can push 5.0, but my MB isn't the best, VRM's start to current throttle too much, which would result in more potential glitches if a project ever reached that point.

Kaju... Ryzen 1800x, that was your mistake. Yes you get lots of fast cores with HT but 3.6 base boost to 4... isn't going to improve much. I'm pretty sure Avenger due to how DAW audio works, runs only on 1 core. A demanding chain of audio needs the fastest core possible. HT in this instance can become useless and more of a potential threat.

My 3.4 couldn't even handle some presents before any extra processing or master chain. My i7 doesn't even spin up the fans, that's Avenger running into Neutron Mix Buss and Ozone on the master. All well known for being CPU hugs.

Regardless to all that. One thing I can be sure on is we will see Avenger improve. Man still uses Cubase 5 (I think) I wonder what machine that's running on. Surely he'd want huge performance improvements if they were that serious.
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mitchiemasha
KVRist
266 posts since 15 Aug, 2011 from teesside

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.10 update with new features

Post Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:38 am

ReboundAudio wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:12 am
70% with some presets.
Tell me the name of that preset and I will try it on my machine. I don't have many expansions (although I wish I did) so stick to factory. You have a bad set up. There's no way you'd hit 70% on the new i9. The VRM's on your motherboard might be getting too hot due to the nature of your water cooling, depends how you have that set up. Still it shouldn't be hitting 70%, not even 24%.

Lets not forget some presets are an entire track onto themselves. If you're playing this preset like a full song, expect high usage but not 70%
MSI z390, i7 9700k, Noctua NH-U9S, NVME 970 Pro, 16GB 3000C15, BeQuiet S11, W10, Cubase 10.
Virus TI (INTERGRATED), Yamaha CS2x (Custom Mapped), JV1080 (Dance Card), Nord 2, Novation KS & Stations.

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