How To Make This Perc-like Stab?

[AB69]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm6IFQu9FZY
(2:04)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qUhNcaOTiU
(1:43)

Very quick percussion sounding stab. I'm not sure how to make it at all tbh. I plan on using either Sylenth or Spire for this, unless this sound may be done through a sampler instead?

It sounds very squarish, pluckish obviously. Idk if I should be using a synth or trying to find some sort of sample. If I am using a synth could someone give me some guidance on how it's done? If I am looking for a sample, what kind of sample am I looking for? A stab sound? A percussion sound and process it as a stab?

If I am making it in a synth, what specific parameters would I be modulating? I know about the quick ADSR, filter cut off, but anything else regarding the pitch?

Will appreciate any advice, thanks.

[AB69]

Any help please?

[Ah_Dziz]

Those sounds are very different from one another.

[Yacc]

i think the first one is a detuned square pluck with 2 voices. you have to finetune the cutoff to get the sound right.

dont know about the second, it sounds squarish too