Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.8.5 the main thread
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- KVRAF
- 2086 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
Yep basically that's the concept behind 'additive synthesis' - you draw/tweak harmonics of that waveform
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Are there differences between implementing the additive synthesis in Oscillator's level or filter's level? I'm trying to know what the advantages of the filter's additives over the Oscillator's? Can it be the same?
- KVRAF
- 2912 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
You are my favoritist person on KVRwagtunes wrote:199 Euro is still $222. It would still be my 2nd most expensive synth purchase just behind Falcon. However, having said that, if this sells for even that little, it will be the steal of the year hands down.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Well, um, thanks. LMAO.thejonsolo wrote:You are my favoritist person on KVRwagtunes wrote:199 Euro is still $222. It would still be my 2nd most expensive synth purchase just behind Falcon. However, having said that, if this sells for even that little, it will be the steal of the year hands down.
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- KVRAF
- 1684 posts since 29 Sep, 2013
+1wagtunes wrote:Well, um, thanks. LMAO.thejonsolo wrote:You are my favoritist person on KVRwagtunes wrote:199 Euro is still $222. It would still be my 2nd most expensive synth purchase just behind Falcon. However, having said that, if this sells for even that little, it will be the steal of the year hands down.
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- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Unfortunately, that's not necessarily a good thing.nordickvr wrote:+1wagtunes wrote:Well, um, thanks. LMAO.thejonsolo wrote:You are my favoritist person on KVRwagtunes wrote:199 Euro is still $222. It would still be my 2nd most expensive synth purchase just behind Falcon. However, having said that, if this sells for even that little, it will be the steal of the year hands down.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2468 posts since 18 Apr, 2011
I dont know if I understood your question, but these are 2 totally different things. A normal Filter is not able to filter out only specific harmonics in the middle of a signal. Furthermore it (the FFT) follows your keyrange. And if you use the FFT like a HP/LP, the advantage is, that you have a steepness of infinite / 90degree, where most filters are quitting at 24dB/octAre there differences between implementing the additive synthesis in Oscillator's level or filter's level? I'm trying to know what the advantages of the filter's additives over the Oscillator's? Can it be the same?
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Oh! I understand (something) now. It has many detailed controls over the frequency.msvs wrote:I dont know if I understood your question, but these are 2 totally different things. A normal Filter is not able to filter out only specific harmonics in the middle of a signal. Furthermore it (the FFT) follows your keyrange. And if you use the FFT like a HP/LP, the advantage is, that you have a steepness of infinite / 90degree, where most filters are quitting at 24dB/octAre there differences between implementing the additive synthesis in Oscillator's level or filter's level? I'm trying to know what the advantages of the filter's additives over the Oscillator's? Can it be the same?
Thank you for your reply The FFT filter is something new for me. I need to read and understand well then
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- KVRist
- 484 posts since 15 Aug, 2011 from Teesside
EnGee... there might be something you've missed with sound in general. 12 years in and i only learned this early in the year. There are only sine waves, for example, a square wave is lots of sine waves mathematically related to make the combined wave form a square. FFT makes a lot more sense when knowing this.
There's a nice lil animation on this page... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_wave
The FFT gives you direct control over the individual harmonics that would make up the waveform.
There's a nice lil animation on this page... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_wave
The FFT gives you direct control over the individual harmonics that would make up the waveform.
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
I guess what you mean is additive synthesis while we were discussing a FFT spectrum filter here which is a bit differentmitchiemasha wrote:EnGee... there might be something you've missed with sound in general. 12 years in and i only learned this early in the year. There are only sine waves, for example, a square wave is lots of sine waves mathematically related to make the combined wave form a square. FFT makes a lot more sense when knowing this.
There's a nice lil animation on this page... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_wave
The FFT gives you direct control over the individual harmonics that would make up the waveform.
The FFT spectrum filter allows to remove certain additive partials from any waveform while with additive synhesis you build the waveform from scratch using multiple partials (= Sine wave at different harmonics).
The big difference is that with additive synthesis you are adding partials/harmonics while with a FFT spectrum filter you remove them (or increase/decrease the amplitude of them).
Partials/harmonics not included in the waveform could not be added by the FFT filter.
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
Is it working similar like the Virsyn filters which can be drawed too? I love those sounds they can produce. I didn't find that in any other synths yet.
And could we morph filters too?
And could we morph filters too?
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
A YouTube tutorial video about the FFT spectrum filter was alraedy posted at this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9sVDopQO4k
As i just mentioned a FFT spectrum filter could only remove partials/harmonics from a waveform (or increase/decrease the amplitude of them), not add them.
To add specific partials/harmonics you would need an additive waveform editor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9sVDopQO4k
As i just mentioned a FFT spectrum filter could only remove partials/harmonics from a waveform (or increase/decrease the amplitude of them), not add them.
To add specific partials/harmonics you would need an additive waveform editor.
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