KVR Audio

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:01 pm

In DP you enter midi-learn mode via a button, select the control, move the control, done.

IMO way easier than S1's method.

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:21 pm

Edit, my comment was redundant. Chk already explained it in the OP.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:19 am

Robert Randolph wrote:In DP you enter midi-learn mode via a button, select the control, move the control, done.

IMO way easier than S1's method.

True, but how is it able to detect the midi devices controls? Also, i fail to see how this is "way easier" than S1's method. Seems pretty much the same.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:17 pm

chk071 wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:In DP you enter midi-learn mode via a button, select the control, move the control, done.

IMO way easier than S1's method.
True, but how is it able to detect the midi devices controls? Also, i fail to see how this is "way easier" than S1's method. Seems pretty much the same.

DP can use any midi device on the system. There's no setup required.

It's definitely easier than studio one.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:22 pm

About any host can do that. The question is, how is it set up in DP? I mean, it could well be that you have several midi devices, and you don't plugin them all whenever you launch DP. The way i understood it, the host at least has to know which knobs and faders the single midi devices have, and that is not possible, if there's not some kind of control scheme, or whatever set up in the host.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:00 pm

chk071 wrote:About any host can do that. The question is, how is it set up in DP? I mean, it could well be that you have several midi devices, and you don't plugin them all whenever you launch DP. The way i understood it, the host at least has to know which knobs and faders the single midi devices have, and that is not possible, if there's not some kind of control scheme, or whatever set up in the host.

No, the host doesn't have to know that. The device can simply send that information and it be recognized on first transmission. The host doesn't actually have to know what is a control or not (unless it's sending nrpn or sysex). It's just midi data.

DP automatically finds/connects your midi devices on startup. It will warn you if something is missing that was present last time you saved the project, but everything present is connected automatically.

Now, if you want to use a pre-defined map... then sure you have to setup something in that regard (as you do with any host). Just for midi-learn though... no.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:15 pm

Wonder why i have to set up my midi keyboard in Studio One then. You know, like, learn the knobs and faders, and stuff.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:32 pm

dp sounds just like samplitude but for each track you select your midi input (or audio input) and like I said in the dialog box for the vsti check the midi learn function then you can click a parameter, move the corresponding controller and so on and when you;re done go back and deselect the midi learn...but you do have to choose a controller at the midi input stage which only makes sense

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:29 pm

In Ableton it is similar, ctrl+M enters MIDI learn mode, then you do the usual, click a knob in the VST then wiggle a knob in your controller, ctrl+M again when you are finished.

As a plus, ctrl+K allows the same for ordinary computer keyboard keys, useful for on/off switches.

wilcofan · Post by **wilcofan** » Sat May 06, 2017 3:16 pm

DP can use any midi device on the system. There's no setup required. It's definitely easier than studio one.

True. Except it's all one to one mapping. (one knob to one plugin parameter) If you have 8 plugin instruments you'll need 200 physical knobs in no time.

It's easy but scales poorly.

Wonder why i have to set up my midi keyboard in Studio One then. You know, like, learn the knobs and faders, and stuff.

Because in S1 you are creating a layer between the plugin and your physical keyboard/knob input. There's a good reason for this. You are making connections between:

1. Physical Knob -> S1 Virtual Knob

2. S1 Virtual Knob -> Plugin Parameter

Why not just remove the layer and connect Physical Knob -> Plugin Parameter?

This is where S1 gets it mostly right. You can map one knob to many plugin parameters. As your focused instrument changes, so does your S1 Virtual Knob -> Plugin Parameter mapping.

It's more complicated but scales well.

I've been wondering if any other hosts offer one to many mapping other than S1 and Reaper?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat May 06, 2017 6:28 pm

wilcofan wrote:I've been wondering if any other hosts offer one to many mapping other than S1 and Reaper?

viewtopic.php?p=6544403#p6544403

wilcofan · Post by **wilcofan** » Sat May 06, 2017 6:47 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
wilcofan wrote:I've been wondering if any other hosts offer one to many mapping other than S1 and Reaper?
viewtopic.php?p=6544403#p6544403

Awesome, this thread is now recursive.

Did only Studio One get the midi control learn thingie right?