White Keys vs Black Keys
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- KVRAF
- 35098 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
- KVRAF
- 1576 posts since 22 Oct, 2004 from Schmocation
Black Keys + orange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiziGLe1jBw
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- KVRer
- 25 posts since 5 Jun, 2007
If you are trying to avoid the singer's rage, you should not use all white keys. But you should not modulate into black keys, because you can never go back.MadBrain wrote:
If you need to start higher - maybe to better fit the singer's rage for instance - you could start on G. And then, considering that every half-step is equal, you will get 1 sharp:
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
I think Vince Clarke used more black than white keys in the riff of Who Needs Love Like that
A#, F G# A A#, F G# F A# G# F A# C# C A#
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX0VJhrw01w
A#, F G# A A#, F G# F A# G# F A# C# C A#
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX0VJhrw01w
- KVRAF
- 15206 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Would this solve your issue? It forces you to explore pentatonic scales
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland
So racist
Just try to use as many white as black keys in every song. Also keep track that the average velocity of both is the same.
Just try to use as many white as black keys in every song. Also keep track that the average velocity of both is the same.
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- KVRist
- 91 posts since 7 Jul, 2004
Just use the white keys and throw in a black key for fun no more than 5 percent of the time and you'll be fine. If you wanna be totally outrageous, use the transpose function on your keyboard to try new scales. You'll never have to learn what the black keys are if you don't want to. Or spend a couple years figuring them out. It may be better in the long run, it may not.
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Just realized that In a beautiful place out in the country, main riff goes like E D# D C
Goes to show that a beautiful song can have an uncommon key structure.
Goes to show that a beautiful song can have an uncommon key structure.
- KVRAF
- 4129 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
It could also be a very common scale (pentatonic blues) with the root note of A. The notes you play are just as important as the ones you don't.Numanoid wrote:Just realized that In a beautiful place out in the country, main riff goes like E D# D C
Goes to show that a beautiful song can have an uncommon key structure.
A Pentatonic Blues
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- KVRAF
- 2625 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
Caine123 wrote:ok now im gonna shock you i guess , the thing is i mostly use the white keys on the keyboard/piano roll for melodyprogression. of course this is BOOOOORING! before i get to chords i need to learn this first, i guess?
EVERY time i hit c -> e -> f-> d -> c .... it sounds ok, melodical, but when i wanna do e.g. use a black key c -> e -> d# -> d -> c....... it sounds amelodical....... when may i use the black keys and when not? is there a good lecture, online tuts etc. so i can learn when to use the black keys or when you CAN use them but staying melodical? this would improve myself a lot!!!!! thanks
Sod white keys vs black keys debates.
All the cool kids are using A Locrian 6 nowadays
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- KVRAF
- 2362 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
Fun music fact of the day: Back in Time by Huey Lewis and the News is in D Lorian, so you might want to try that for the retro futuristic feel.dark water wrote:All the cool kids are using A Locrian 6 nowadays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXN6tgE4g_4
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Just to reiterate: you need to learn some basic music theory. There are an endless number of books, videos, websites, and programs devoted to teaching this. Just choose the medium you prefer, and do a search for "music theory for beginners" or something along those lines.
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 12 May, 2011
sjm wrote:Fun music fact of the day: Back in Time by Huey Lewis and the News is in D Lorian, so you might want to try that for the retro futuristic feel.dark water wrote:All the cool kids are using A Locrian 6 nowadays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXN6tgE4g_4
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- KVRian
- 645 posts since 4 Nov, 2013 from Vancouver, Canada
You might try buying a book of scales and practice playing them on your keyboard. Those of us who were trained to play classical music on the piano were forced to endure that experience for a reason - you eventually get the most common scales hardwired into your brain. It's not a quick and easy solution, but it will work.