KVR Audio

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue May 03, 2016 1:46 am

zerocrossing wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
So far I've not heard anything from Softube Modular that seems better than Reaktor 6.
If you are referring to Blocks... Softube Modular can be polyphonic

Also, Softube Modular can be freely wired on the GUI... no need to go into an edit mode to rewire things... it also does not have the 2 mod slots limitation of Blocks.
Why do you think that? Nothing in the information I've found implies it will be polyphonic. I mean, technically you can make a polyphonic blocks patch, but man is it expensive if you want something cool. I imagine SM will be pretty CPU intensive as well.

The two mod slot thing is a little limiting, so that would be nice. I've managed to work around it fairly easily though considering there doesn't seem to be a limit as to how many places you can route something.

re: polyphony... Watch the video on page 1. It is at least possible. Hopefully one does not have to wire up independent signal paths... but I did assume that would not be necessary.

The 2 mod slots thing is rather annoying. You want to change that routing and it's a whole new device.

crystalmsc · Post by **crystalmsc** » Tue May 03, 2016 3:14 am

blob 59 wrote:I like the idea but fear it will be hugely addictive and ultimately very expensive.

True, it's going to be an endless route. But I can't resist to think about the basic system + Heartbeat + Korgasmatron II + Rubicon. I've been waiting for something like that, a modular MS-20 style synth with some twist and an analog style sequencing. The plan is to stay with that for a while and using it with my other plugins such as the Mxxx, Soundtoys, Eventide, Turnado, etc. Actually there's no rush to add more rack for a while. But I mostly fail to defense

Starting to dream if other companies such as Arturia and XILS are releasing the rack module version of their synth for free to their users.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Tue May 03, 2016 3:21 am

Did they say the release date was May 11?

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Tue May 03, 2016 4:30 am

I haven't found a full list of the stock modules this comes with. Does anybody/ everybody know this info? I'm gonna buy it either way probably.

JJ

crystalmsc · Post by **crystalmsc** » Tue May 03, 2016 4:45 am

wagtunes wrote:Did they say the release date was May 11?

It said so on their page: http://www.softube.com/index.php?id=news150

More info of the stock modules can be found here.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Tue May 03, 2016 4:50 am

duplicate

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Tue May 03, 2016 4:51 am

SLiC wrote:I agree with the porn comments, this is just photorealistic pictures of real eurorack modules so you can build a virtual eurorack....but why? I have spent about two grand on eurorack to make a hardware instrument to get away from computers....when I use my computer (often!) I use VSTs that were designed for the computer environment so have GUIs suitable for mouse interaction and virtually no limitations on routing/modular sources etc (just use BITWiG or Reactor)

I can think of reasons
1) Softube kick's ass with their modelling
2) Recreations of actual & popular modules
3) No Reaktor wrapper
4) Half the price of Reaktor6 to start with, and you get a nice amount for that $99.
5) Who knows what cool stuff Softube will model, it's could have a vibrant future, new flavours.

I don't think this has much to do with music, it's just pretending you have a eurorack....why would anyone want to pay per module when it's free in Reaktor 6?

You could say that about literally anything emulated in software. It's about cost & convenience. I'd love a real modular, but it requires money, time & space. Even then it would offer no patch recall and I couldn't load unlimited instances in my DAW. Not saying I wouldn't do the HW either.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Tue May 03, 2016 6:04 am

Softube may be half the price of Reactor, but there are 1000s of free high quality modules (east and west coast style) available in Reactor (that's free....not 30- 50 bucks each) and the modelling in Reactor seems every it as good as Softube modelling from what I have heard based on heartbeat (and using monark filters etc).

Buy just 10 modules to make a small modular and that's cost you 300 -400 bucks. My hardware modules has over 50 modules, that could be 1500 to make in software with Softube.

With Reaktor you can just be modular with blocks or you can go much deaper and build your own eurorack style modules...it's that community that gives Reactor the edge in my opinion....oh,and the fact that they have now developed a hardware module for Eurorack that lets Reactor work with hardware modules expert sleepers style

http://youtu.be/M2tqd6P4WGQ

ImNotDedYet · Post by **ImNotDedYet** » Tue May 03, 2016 6:14 am

wagtunes wrote:Did they say the release date was May 11?

Yep

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Tue May 03, 2016 7:28 am

SLiC wrote:oh,and the fact that they have now developed a hardware module for Eurorack that lets Reactor work with hardware modules expert sleepers style

http://youtu.be/M2tqd6P4WGQ

No, they were using Expert Sleepers hardware in that video. They just developed a Reaktor block which calibrates and controls your hardware oscillators in the same way the Silent Way software does.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Tue May 03, 2016 9:08 am

I see no reason why Softube Modular won't be able to interface with Reaktor Blocks seeing as they can both interface with CV equipment, Reaktor blocks allow external audio/cv in.
Hopefully vice versa if Softube as audio/cv in

very angry mobster · Post by **very angry mobster** » Tue May 03, 2016 11:37 am

VariKusBrainZ wrote:I see no reason why Softube Modular won't be able to interface with Reaktor Blocks seeing as they can both interface with CV equipment, Reaktor blocks allow external audio/cv in.
Hopefully vice versa if Softube as audio/cv in

Yeah, I really hope Softube has audio and cv ins. It would make it much more useful.

contrast · Post by **contrast** » Tue May 03, 2016 8:01 pm

Re: polyphony: There is a module that can take polyphonic MIDI input and output 4 voices worth of CV, which you can then wire up however you want to create a polyphonic patch. (And there is a user block for Reaktor 6 that does something similar.) But you can't wire up a monophonic voice and then flip a switch to turn it polyphonic, which I think is what most people are thinking of.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue May 03, 2016 8:59 pm

contrast wrote:Re: polyphony: There is a module that can take polyphonic MIDI input and output 4 voices worth of CV, which you can then wire up however you want to create a polyphonic patch. (And there is a user block for Reaktor 6 that does something similar.) But you can't wire up a monophonic voice and then flip a switch to turn it polyphonic, which I think is what most people are thinking of.

Yeah, that is not very fluent... you have to duplicate all the modules 4 times for 4 voices then changing a preset sound you have to edit all 4 monosynths... I consider that un-usable.

So in Softube Modular is monophonic... in the same way as Reaktor Blocks

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Tue May 03, 2016 11:45 pm

pdxindy wrote:
contrast wrote:Re: polyphony: There is a module that can take polyphonic MIDI input and output 4 voices worth of CV, which you can then wire up however you want to create a polyphonic patch. (And there is a user block for Reaktor 6 that does something similar.) But you can't wire up a monophonic voice and then flip a switch to turn it polyphonic, which I think is what most people are thinking of.
Yeah, that is not very fluent... you have to duplicate all the modules 4 times for 4 voices then changing a preset sound you have to edit all 4 monosynths... I consider that un-usable.

So in Softube Modular is monophonic... in the same way as Reaktor Blocks

You mean monophonic in the same way as a real Eurorack modular. Which is to say that you can make it as polyphonic as you want, but it will require some effort on your part. Then again, maybe they have a polyphonic option where each voice effectively creates a full instance of the patch. I don't know. It's an expensive way to go, computationally speaking. That is precisely why the Nord modular had separate mono and poly sections of the patch, so you could better optimize DSP usage.