Looking for a Multi-Device Universal ASIO Driver
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 52 posts since 10 Feb, 2010
I'm looking for a universal ASIO driver that will allow me to use multiple sound cards at the same time in my Sonar project. Currently, Sonar/ASIO is not allowing me to use both my Tascam UH-7000 and Delta 1010 in my project. I can only use one or the other but not both. I know there is ASIO4ALL that can do this, but I heard that ASIO4ALL is not so good with latency and it is not really an ASIO driver but WDM pretending to be ASIO.
Does anyone know what other drivers I could use in my DAW to be able to run two or more sound cards at the same time?
Thanks!
Does anyone know what other drivers I could use in my DAW to be able to run two or more sound cards at the same time?
Thanks!
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- KVRian
- 702 posts since 9 May, 2005
By definition, ASIO only allows a single audio interface.mtl777 wrote:I'm looking for a universal ASIO driver that will allow me to use multiple sound cards at the same time in my Sonar project. Currently, Sonar/ASIO is not allowing me to use both my Tascam UH-7000 and Delta 1010 in my project. I can only use one or the other but not both. I know there is ASIO4ALL that can do this, but I heard that ASIO4ALL is not so good with latency and it is not really an ASIO driver but WDM pretending to be ASIO.
Does anyone know what other drivers I could use in my DAW to be able to run two or more sound cards at the same time?
Thanks!
Some manufacturers get around this by having 2nd or 3rd (identical or similar) units show up as more I/O under a single ASIO driver.
If you use something like ASIO4ALL to aggregate two audio interfaces, you'll need to clock one audio interface to the other (so they're sharing a single clock source. Otherwise, audio will drift apart (between the two units) over time. This is due to the small timing differences of the clocks.
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Not such a diver exist, the only brand I know that can agregate devices using their own ASIO drivers is RME:
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- KVRAF
- 15269 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Asio4All is your only (and not that bad) option. Just try it...
I have to say, if all you need is routing several audio tracks to separare outputs on several cards & WDM drivers, I did that without issues with CoolEditPro. Now called Adobe Audition.
I have to say, if all you need is routing several audio tracks to separare outputs on several cards & WDM drivers, I did that without issues with CoolEditPro. Now called Adobe Audition.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33164 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Have you tried WDM or any of the other driver types Sonar supports?mtl777 wrote:I'm looking for a universal ASIO driver that will allow me to use multiple sound cards at the same time in my Sonar project.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 52 posts since 10 Feb, 2010
Thanks everyone for your replies! Looks like I'll have to try that ASIO4ALL driver. How is this driver with regards to latency and CPU usage?
So ASIO4ALL actually aggregates the WDM drivers, not the ASIO drivers, of the sound cards in your system, correct? Then why is it called an "ASIO" driver?
So ASIO4ALL actually aggregates the WDM drivers, not the ASIO drivers, of the sound cards in your system, correct? Then why is it called an "ASIO" driver?
I have tried WDM but the thing is I am unable to set my UH-7000 to 48K sample rate/24 bits in WDM driver mode. Sonar says it's not supported for this driver, then it resets the UH-7000 to 44.1K/16 bits. The only way I can set the UH-7000 to 48K/24 bits is if I select ASIO driver mode and remove all instances of Delta 1010 ASIO in the Drivers tab in Sonar, leaving only the UH-7000 driver. So this means that I can only use the UH-7000 alone and not together with the Delta 1010. I would like to use them both.whyterabbyt wrote:Have you tried WDM or any of the other driver types Sonar supports?mtl777 wrote:I'm looking for a universal ASIO driver that will allow me to use multiple sound cards at the same time in my Sonar project.
- Beware the Quoth
- 33164 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Because it is an ASIO driver; it conforms to the ASIO standard, and communicates with the host software (eg Sonar) in exactly the same way as any other ASIO driver. The stuff its doing that's slightly different from other drivers (communicating with the hardware via a different driver protocol instead of accessing it directly) doesnt affect that.mtl777 wrote:So ASIO4ALL actually aggregates the WDM drivers, not the ASIO drivers, of the sound cards in your system, correct? Then why is it called an "ASIO" driver?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 52 posts since 10 Feb, 2010
Thanks for the explanation!whyterabbyt wrote:Because it is an ASIO driver; it conforms to the ASIO standard, and communicates with the host software (eg Sonar) in exactly the same way as any other ASIO driver. The stuff its doing that's slightly different from other drivers (communicating with the hardware via a different driver protocol instead of accessing it directly) doesnt affect that.mtl777 wrote:So ASIO4ALL actually aggregates the WDM drivers, not the ASIO drivers, of the sound cards in your system, correct? Then why is it called an "ASIO" driver?
I tried ASIO4ALL and am having problems. Whenever I select my Delta 1010 as one of the available drivers in ASIO4ALL, the response of Sonar to mouse clicks grinds to a crawl. After I click the mouse there is a long delay before Sonar responds. I am also unable to record. The only way it would work fine is if I unselect the Delta 1010 from the driver list in ASIO4ALL. This is probably due to my Delta 1010 driver being too old. I will try a newer Delta 1010 driver.
Another problem is when I rebooted, there are now two instances (icons) of Delta Control Panel showing in the task bar notification area. Both icons are functional -- they bring up the Delta Control Panel. I check the processes in Task Manager and I see two instances of DelTray.exe running! These two instances must have run automatically from start up. How did this happen? How can I get rid of one of them?
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
You could look at: asio server or jack to see if they might be able to do what you need.
FL Studio comes with its own asio driver in addition to asio4all; when my Roland asio craps out in Studio One, I can switch to the FL driver and that works.
I think there's also another paid alternative but I forgot what it's called (sorry).
FL Studio comes with its own asio driver in addition to asio4all; when my Roland asio craps out in Studio One, I can switch to the FL driver and that works.
I think there's also another paid alternative but I forgot what it's called (sorry).
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 52 posts since 10 Feb, 2010
Thanks for the suggestions. I took a look at Audinate Dante Via, O Deus ASIO Link Pro, and other ASIO server software. These seem to be multi-client drivers that allow you to use multiple apps at the same time sharing one or more sound cards. What I need is to be able to use multiple sound cards in one app.
- KVRAF
- 2119 posts since 10 Apr, 2002 from Saint Germain en Laye, France
- KVRAF
- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
Still have the problem?I check the processes in Task Manager and I see two instances of DelTray.exe running! These two instances must have run automatically from start up. How did this happen? How can I get rid of one of them?
What platform are you on...Win7 ?
Do you need Sonar running or do you see them without Sonar?
- if without Sonar;
- goto;
start/run/[type]msconfig then hit OK
System Configuration - startup tab
do you see the process?
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Undo what you did or uninstall ASIO4U
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 52 posts since 10 Feb, 2010
Voicemeter looks nice. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have to try it to find out for sure if it will do what I need it to do.carrieres wrote:what about Voicemeeter Virtual Audio Mixer http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Vo ... /index.htm
How is Voicemeter with latency and CPU utilization?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 52 posts since 10 Feb, 2010
Thanks man! I opened MSConfig and saw two instances of DelTray.exe in the startup list. How the hell did the second one get there? Well, I deleted the second one and that fixed the double icons problem.annode wrote:Still have the problem?I check the processes in Task Manager and I see two instances of DelTray.exe running! These two instances must have run automatically from start up. How did this happen? How can I get rid of one of them?
What platform are you on...Win7 ?
Do you need Sonar running or do you see them without Sonar?
- if without Sonar;
- goto;
start/run/[type]msconfig then hit OK
System Configuration - startup tab
do you see the process?
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Undo what you did or uninstall ASIO4U