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DaveGamble wrote:
@midnight wrote: You have to oversample to 384khz to get an analog-like sound quality. Yes, the quality of the algorithm and circuit also matters greatly but as a basic ingredient you need nyquist pushed all the way up to 192khz in order for the aliasing to remain in the inaudible spectrum.
Sorry to jump in, but I have to comment on this to qualify it a little more fully.

Oversampling a linear process (EQ) offers no benefit in terms of aliasing, because there isn't any aliasing to get rid of.

Oversampling a time-variant process up to 2x is worthwhile, assuming an audio-rate (or lower) modulator, because you then have two spectra worth of audio content convolved together (spectrally speaking); I usually include dynamics in this category, since if your sidechain signal is generating a gain reduction signal that contains faster-than-audio-rate content, you are concerning yourself with compression-as-distortion, rather than compression as dynamics. I'll take the point that the switch between attack and release might fall into this category, but as a designer of dynamics, we'd want to make that transition as smooth as possible. Or things would sound bad (e.g. Gate chatter, for instance).

Oversampling distortion is one easy way to 'improve' the sound of a naive distortion. Or even to add a little finesse to a good one. But of course, the degree of oversampling that's beneficial is a function of the nature of the distortion, and how hard you hit it.
I'd like to speculate that most worthwhile, modern distortions are designed around an implicit oversampling-type process; runge-kutta being a good, topical example. But there are plenty of naive distortions around, and without oversampling, they sound terrible. I don't know how it's still a thing, but seemingly it is. I suppose the key factor is that aliasing is ALWAYS going to be a LOT quieter than signal, so it's going to remain "grab the spec analyser" kind of problem. (Except in Massive, where the aliasing is what makes it good)

Rant over.

Dave.
Hello Dave,

Thanks for the very detailed explanation about Oversampling and the point about compression-as-distortion, rather than compression as dynamics.

Regards,

Nick
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Anyone else got any audio examples they would like to submit?

Much appreciated as always.
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Dear Friends,

Just to let you know we haven't changed the prices yet from the special introductory promo.

If anyone wants to grab a deal at the very last minute, now is the time.

And a big thank you to all of the people who have bought them since the release of version 3.0, we hope you are all enjoying using them.
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Nick Hamilton wrote:Anyone else got any audio examples they would like to submit?
I might try to make some guitars through amp simulators.

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Hello Sorohanro,

Great, let us know when you post your examples.

Thanks again to everyone who have taken the time to do the audio examples.

Regards,

Nick
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PlugAndMix fanboy here

Can spend hours doodling with them.

Because there are so few controls, I spend more time looking for the musically sweet spot on a single dial.

I either find something I like pretty quickly - or - I promptly remove the plug and move on.

This one-dial-to-the-sweet-spot is like the opposite of detailed sound sculpting - which is what most plugs try to offer.

Quite often I only have a broad idea what I might want to do to a sound/loop/part.

So quickly trying out different plugs is where the fun starts.

My general feeling is that using plugandmix adds more rawness to the sound.

Which I like as I'm fed up with uber-posh modern mixes (yeah, nice - but ...)

PlugAndMix puts the colour back in my face.
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For anyone interested, I've written a review of the VIP bundle that's just been posted here:

http://soundbytesmagazine.com/

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Thanks a million for the link, David. reviewer's Revival will also be reviewing this fan-tabu-lous V.I.P. bundle for P&M. I haven't had much of a chance to get into them too much yet, but I have used the EchoFlex and the Dimension D-style chorus. Both of those plug-ins impressed me HUGELY! I can't wait to sink my teeth into my review of them.
dmbaer wrote:For anyone interested, I've written a review of the VIP bundle that's just been posted here:

http://soundbytesmagazine.com/
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I just picked up the VIP Bundle . . . they look great (yes the GUI), and I can't wait to dive in. IF INSPIRED, I may try to write a mini user review/summary that is hopefully helpful. I doubt I would write about each plugin as there are about 250 million in the package . . . Time to launch . . .
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tommyzai wrote:I just picked up the VIP Bundle . . . they look great (yes the GUI), and I can't wait to dive in. If inspired, I may try to write a mini user review/summary that is hopefully helpful. I doubt I would write about each plugin as there are about 250 million in the package . . . Time to launch . . .
Let me guess. Will each of them be rated 10/10?

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masterhiggins wrote:Let me guess. Will each of them be rated 10/10?
Hmm, should each of the 40 be rated 10/10? I haven't launched one yet. They certainly have cool interface . . . simple and eye-pleasing. I'll give them a 10 across the board for that.
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Don't forget The Chainer.

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masterhiggins wrote:
tommyzai wrote:I just picked up the VIP Bundle . . . they look great (yes the GUI), and I can't wait to dive in. If inspired, I may try to write a mini user review/summary that is hopefully helpful. I doubt I would write about each plugin as there are about 250 million in the package . . . Time to launch . . .
Let me guess. Will each of them be rated 10/10?
:lol:

I think that they will all score a perfect 10 from Tommy Z...

He hasn't got a harsh word to say about any plugin :wink:
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digitalboytn wrote: He hasn't got a harsh word to say about any plugin :wink:
I probably should write a few reviews about my least favorite plugins — It would give me more credibility, but I just don't have the heart to post overly negative stuff. I'm hopeful this Plug and Mix VIP Bundle will be a good one and worthy of an infamous Tommy Zai review.
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tommyzai, a bird cant fly if it's chained to the ground .. cut those chains, don't listen to people trying to hold you down.. :)

I have my favourites in the pack so it would be fun to see which ones you like. It's hard to try them all out and im sure i've left a few out that i should pay more attention too. Notice how a few of them aren't zero latency which is a shame! Those are generally extra good (booster and new amp simulation are those i know of)
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