Tantra v1.1 released, sales
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- KVRAF
- 10309 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Back to Share-it's price calculation
Current price $49
Converted by Share-It at a rate of 1.378 $/£ = £35.56
Plus 20% VAT (in the UK) = £42.67
Current price $49
Converted using the FT.com rate of 1.519 $/£ = £32.26
Plus 20% VAT (in the UK) = £38.71
So, a 10% surcharge from Share-It.
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I must stress that this is absolutely not Dimitri's problem or fault, but it is not a cool practice by Share-It.
Current price $49
Converted by Share-It at a rate of 1.378 $/£ = £35.56
Plus 20% VAT (in the UK) = £42.67
Current price $49
Converted using the FT.com rate of 1.519 $/£ = £32.26
Plus 20% VAT (in the UK) = £38.71
So, a 10% surcharge from Share-It.
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I must stress that this is absolutely not Dimitri's problem or fault, but it is not a cool practice by Share-It.
- KVRAF
- 5483 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania
Tried the demo in Studio One 2 on Win7 x32.
Really really cool graphics, Dmitry. Please do Diversion a big favour and update it's GUI.
Put some audio through it and sounds great. But it's such a CPU hog (20-30% with all effects engaged and 7% with nothing enabled) compared to Camel Audio or Sugar Bytes stuff (1-6% with all stuff engaged). I also get lots and lots of CPU spikes in S1.
Also, -24dB for the master Volume is not enough. And LOFI Bit showing percents is weird.
Really really cool graphics, Dmitry. Please do Diversion a big favour and update it's GUI.
Put some audio through it and sounds great. But it's such a CPU hog (20-30% with all effects engaged and 7% with nothing enabled) compared to Camel Audio or Sugar Bytes stuff (1-6% with all stuff engaged). I also get lots and lots of CPU spikes in S1.
Also, -24dB for the master Volume is not enough. And LOFI Bit showing percents is weird.
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- KVRian
- 1119 posts since 29 Sep, 2013
I was thinking similar last night as I stared at Diversion from my bed to stretch my back for a minute. Diversion would would look stunning skinned with a bit more color and more contrast on the knobs (and the indicator/position dots on them). I love it, as it is, but would gravitate towards more contrast/saturation and more color in general if it were available. I still think it looks classy and unified as is though.
In rotation here: Hammock- Stranded Under Endless Sky
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- KVRian
- 957 posts since 27 Jun, 2011
You can select the currency it should be billed in (at least I could). Just choose USD and let your CC company screw you instead.DarkStar wrote:Back to Share-it's price calculation
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So, a 10% surcharge from Share-It.
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I must stress that this is absolutely not Dimitri's problem or fault, but it is not a cool practice by Share-It.
FWIW, you'll never get the current spot rate as a consumer. Around 5% would probably be normal.
Usually your CC company gives you a better exchange rate than these online retailers, if only because they're more current, so it's best set to the currency that the original vendor advertized, but I always check through the most common currencies just in case.
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- KVRAF
- 10309 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
^^^
Ah ha, that's better - $49 plus 20% VAT = $58.80. Then PayPal shows it as £39.98 (using a rate of 1.47 US$/ GB£
Ah ha, that's better - $49 plus 20% VAT = $58.80. Then PayPal shows it as £39.98 (using a rate of 1.47 US$/ GB£
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
I'd like to see how it is on my computer (win7 x64). Can we take a patch from the library and see how much CPU it will use? It's hard to compare otherwise. Granted, i rarely look at my cpu meter these days. Not because my computer is considered fast these days (i5 2500K i think) but mainly because i don't use many effects or synths and when i do, i usually bounce for some paranoid reason I haven't thought of Tantra to be a CPU hog though. I've had it on every track and didn't notice any dropouts at least.e@rs wrote:Tried the demo in Studio One 2 on Win7 x32.
Really really cool graphics, Dmitry. Please do Diversion a big favour and update it's GUI.
Put some audio through it and sounds great. But it's such a CPU hog (20-30% with all effects engaged and 7% with nothing enabled) compared to Camel Audio or Sugar Bytes stuff (1-6% with all stuff engaged). I also get lots and lots of CPU spikes in S1.
Also, -24dB for the master Volume is not enough. And LOFI Bit showing percents is weird.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 455 posts since 3 Nov, 2009
20-30% CPU is very strange. Tantra is highly optimized, with all modules turned on, at the maximum load, it consumes 13-15% CPU on 2011 laptops, powerful enough but far from top ones. Macbooks/laptops with modern i7 CPUs run it with around 8-10%. So it just can't be a CPU hog. But for sure I'll double check Studio One.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 455 posts since 3 Nov, 2009
- KVRian
- 1181 posts since 6 Jun, 2002 from Southern Germany
I Tried Tantra and I have to say that I’m impressed by the sound, possibilities and the gui!
Unfortunately I get relatively high CPU usage and nasty peaks in Cubase 7.5 and Cubase 8 – especially when I automate some knobs. Maybe I did something wrong?
Windows 7 / CPU: Intel i7 4x 3,4 GHz / RAM 32 GB
Watch the behavior here:
https://app.box.com/s/ensdfiihrggq0e0gzgbrihl5l0huz7zx
Unfortunately I get relatively high CPU usage and nasty peaks in Cubase 7.5 and Cubase 8 – especially when I automate some knobs. Maybe I did something wrong?
Windows 7 / CPU: Intel i7 4x 3,4 GHz / RAM 32 GB
Watch the behavior here:
https://app.box.com/s/ensdfiihrggq0e0gzgbrihl5l0huz7zx
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- KVRian
- 729 posts since 27 May, 2012 from Vermont, USA
I've found pretty consistently on my iMac i7 that running Tantra only adds about 10% to the CPU reading in Live 9. If I run just an instrument it is X%, adding Tantra fully turned on it becomes X+10%......Not a problem
- KVRAF
- 5483 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania
Sure, I'll pick one that uses a lot of CPU and report back.Crackbaby wrote:e@rs wrote:I'd like to see how it is on my computer (win7 x64). Can we take a patch from the library and see how much CPU it will use? It's hard to compare otherwise.
- KVRAF
- 5483 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania
I only got a 2008 C2D E6750 @ 2.66 GHz with 2GB of RAM. But, as I said above, those are more than enough for Camel and Sugar stuff. So I was quite surprised with Tantra.sches wrote:20-30% CPU is very strange. Tantra is highly optimized, with all modules turned on, at the maximum load, it consumes 13-15% CPU on 2011 laptops, powerful enough but far from top ones. Macbooks/laptops with modern i7 CPUs run it with around 8-10%. So it just can't be a CPU hog. But for sure I'll double check Studio One.
- KVRAF
- 5483 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania
Set A:
GL Stutter 30%
PAD Fireworks 27%
Set B:
DIST Paranoia 22%
FLT Snowstorm 30%
Set C:
DRM BreakIt 30%
LOFI Spooks 33%
Set D:
SEQ Origin 21%
SFX Mr Crush 19%
Also tried Tantra in Live 9. Almost the same figures (-3% each).
GL Stutter 30%
PAD Fireworks 27%
Set B:
DIST Paranoia 22%
FLT Snowstorm 30%
Set C:
DRM BreakIt 30%
LOFI Spooks 33%
Set D:
SEQ Origin 21%
SFX Mr Crush 19%
Also tried Tantra in Live 9. Almost the same figures (-3% each).
- KVRAF
- 6305 posts since 9 Dec, 2008 from Berlin
Well, Camel Audios tools are probably from the era when your computer was hot. Core Duos and other CPUs from that era are no longer up to par with plugins that are optimized for todays machines in my experience. I had for instance problems with Diva and the like, since u-he makes good use of the new vector math units of the i5/i7 range.e@rs wrote:I only got a 2008 C2D E6750 @ 2.66 GHz with 2GB of RAM. But, as I said above, those are more than enough for Camel and Sugar stuff. So I was quite surprised with Tantra.sches wrote:20-30% CPU is very strange. Tantra is highly optimized, with all modules turned on, at the maximum load, it consumes 13-15% CPU on 2011 laptops, powerful enough but far from top ones. Macbooks/laptops with modern i7 CPUs run it with around 8-10%. So it just can't be a CPU hog. But for sure I'll double check Studio One.
Once I updated to an i7, I got speedups way above what the pure CPU rate improvement would suggest. From being hardly able to play 3 notes to something like 40 or 50 notes with Diva.
At one point it really makes sense to go for a new machine (if possible of course).
Cheers,
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 5483 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania
Totally agree with Camel plugins age (and the fact that eventually I have to upgrade the system), but Sugar Bytes latest stuff run with very low CPU. And almost all the tools I need are happy with my machine power. There are a few that aren't, but nothing so unique that I need to change my system right now.