KVR Audio

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:26 pm

Uncle E wrote:
davidv@plogue wrote:For sure I would make it an optional panel and not the main/only way to access the sounds. I feel it's not entirely devoid of historical significance to have a fully working original interface. But maybe Its just my love of emulation in general.
I thing the following interfaces would be worth emulating:

S612 (I really want a software version of this)
S950
MPC2000
K2000
e4/e6400 (its modulation matrix would be cool)

Here are some that I think would be dramatic steps backwards if they were emulated:

S760/S50/W30
Emulator 1/2/EMAX

If you're going to recreate an old sampler user interface, the Ensoniq Mirage is really the only one you need.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:51 pm

deastman wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
davidv@plogue wrote:For sure I would make it an optional panel and not the main/only way to access the sounds. I feel it's not entirely devoid of historical significance to have a fully working original interface. But maybe Its just my love of emulation in general.
I thing the following interfaces would be worth emulating:

S612 (I really want a software version of this)
S950
MPC2000
K2000
e4/e6400 (its modulation matrix would be cool)

Here are some that I think would be dramatic steps backwards if they were emulated:

S760/S50/W30
Emulator 1/2/EMAX
If you're going to recreate an old sampler user interface, the Ensoniq Mirage is really the only one you need.

Now we are reaching a new low record

djshire · Post by **djshire** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:18 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Uncle E wrote: S612 (I really want a software version of this)
That one just on my right?
s612.jpg

Uncle E wrote: S950
MPC2000
K2000
e4/e6400 (its modulation matrix would be cool)
Here are some that I think would be dramatic steps backwards if they were emulated:
S760/S50/W30
Emulator 1/2/EMAX
Are you trying to give us an excuse to hoard even more racks and synths??

Yea seriously, this isn't Gearslutz!

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:30 pm

deastman wrote:If you're going to recreate an old sampler user interface, the Ensoniq Mirage is really the only one you need.

Ensoniq EPS with Autechre mods!

Chad@PA · Post by **Chad@PA** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:20 pm

davidv@plogue wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Wait what? Plogue gonna do FS1R in software?
One out of many projects, but yes we are thinking about it.

I just might have to start a poll thread so we can all vote on it.

the professor · Post by **the professor** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:01 am

This won't do exactly what you're after – you can't run your own sound through it – but if you're after the exact sound of the EII, and the astonishing OMI Universe of Sounds library in all its 80s glory, you may want to take a quick peek at our News page here:

http://www.rhythmicrobot.com/the-emulat ... the-future

... we hope to have very good news for fans of the OMI collection before the Summer!

Best wishes,

The Professor (and Mongo)

the professor · Post by **the professor** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:04 am

Oops... guess who posted twice? Sorry

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:08 am

Very interesting project! I'll be curious to hear the results.

ChamomileShark · Post by **ChamomileShark** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:26 am

I'd also be interested in this. There are plenty of unofficial Universe of Sound files around but they are off the CD, not from a real EII so I'd be really interested when these become available. And glad to hear some of the money will find it's way back to the originator although you've got a pretty big task ahead of you too!

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:29 am

So in other words you're looking for a Emulator II...........emulator ?

sergiofrias · Post by **sergiofrias** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:32 am

i'm still waiting for Togu audio tal-sampler...

ChamomileShark · Post by **ChamomileShark** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:32 am

jupiter8 wrote:So in other words you're looking for a Emulator II...........emulator ?

In a way, aren't we all?

I was having a go on the Cyclone thing and really liked the Boys Choir on that. Then I realised Yamaha had probably nicked that from the EII? And that in turn came from a Mellotron. And of course the mellotron itself was a stolen idea (put right of course).

Aly James · Post by **Aly James** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:24 pm

sergiofrias wrote:
fmr wrote:
bftucker wrote:
knowix wrote:
Ally James is working on a sort of Fairlight emulation, but if that's not what you're after he does appear to be winding his way through 80s samplers and drum machines.
James' fairlight:

"... with basic CEM 3320 VCF" This is total rubbish and misleading.

Fairlight never had filters in the way synths (and samplers like the Emulator) have. Instead, it had "tracking filters", which is an entirely different thing. I think this "retro movement" is mystifying things just to make sales, and in the process creating wrong ideas about what was what in the past. And, for what I remember, the Fairlight never sounded so "cheesy".

Read this thread (http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5854690), which was about recreating the Fairlight.

But if you want "retro taste", then just wait for the TAL sampler.
Hello ,to my understanding Aly James is not milsleading anyone, Fairlight did have tracking filters to reduce digital artifacts , and they were VCF (CEM 3320) , Tal-sampler is going to be as great ,and i bet it's going to also have tracking filters and variable sample rate (i remember seing a image of DAC choice in tal sampler ,so maybe it will be more versatile in a way that we could emulate other old samplers .(but i also agree that can mislead anyone that doesn't know how a fairlight operates,when we think of VCF we associate with traditional analog synthesizers,E-mu emulator does have a traditional VCF controlled by envelope like tipical synths.

James Brown >> Talkin' loud and sayin' nothin'

There was indeed a "tracking filter" per voice card in the Fairlight CMI IIX, nothing fancy the cutoff point is moving in a relative way to the note played, this relative point can however be changed on the voice control page as a FILTER parameter, and can also be assigned to an hardware control on the CMI keyboard for realtime changing.
As for the very old video demo, that was an early alpha test of the direct raw PCM reading from original voice files, voice parameters wasn't extracted and the cutoff was changed manually as I was playing, that's why you can ear the 8bitness on lower notes with the filter wide open, which was often not the case on a basic voice setting on the fairlight, the filter was mainly here to mask the gritty sound that we (funnily) find also useful in certain cases nowadays.
A voice file contains a lot of parameters not only the looping points! there are VCA settings, Vibrato, Filter etc. that were part of an additional file type (.VC for Voice file and .CO for Configuration file) the later being called automatically by the voice file if needed and can be used my many voices.

Right now I can decode most of the data and accurately read a voice as it was made to be played, sample, I have a nice iconic Page D view, scrowlable and I am actually refining the distortion characteristic of the voice card among other things like separate voice card fine tuning etc...
Page D Alpha

As for the FFT part, to speed things up I have found a nice freeware that lets you generate wavetables ala fairlight that can be exported to the voice file size and specs, it is easily convertible into a voice file format that can be imported into Samplight, same monochrome display too and way more wavetable design option that i have time to implement myself

I have recorded a demo with an early alpha months ago that wasn't featuring multi voice card tuning yet and no analogish enhancement. All Samplight excepted a guitar solo in the middle.
http://soundcloud.com/alyjameslab/sampl ... ht-test-01

Far from finish but I plan to make it as musical has my other VSTs

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:09 pm

That sounds legit.

realmarco · Post by **realmarco** » Sat May 23, 2015 4:27 pm

if Anyone here in this thread
lives in Montreal there is a Emu Emax in the St-laurent Pawnshop

its expensive for a lofi sampler but you can haggle in Pawnshops

http://comptant.com/p/musique-synthetis ... /e-mu-emax

Emulator II & III Emulations?