I'm quite surprised by it actually because I used to play guitar in a progressive metal band. I've been to a hell of a lot of loud concerts as well.willdub1 wrote:thats not to bad.. its great actually considering that your 40. i doubt you would have any trouble mixing a song since nothing important other than sparkle exits above 14k. also the frequency response isnt as drastic as minespaceman wrote:Left ear about 13.5K, right slightly more reaching about 14K.
But I perceive volume slightly lower in my right ear.
I'm 40.
ableton users: have you tried testing your hearing range with live's test tone feature
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- 8680 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
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- something special
- 8568 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama
With the headphone volume all the way up I can hear to 12k; after that it's more like feeling a presence but actually after 14 even that disappears.
I'll be 60 in 3 months.
I'll be 60 in 3 months.
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
I'm still up to 16kHz here....
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- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from betwixt
Same here. I also have piercing and frankly debilitating tinnitus, but if you talk about it to anyone they just tell you you're being a hypochondriac.spaceman wrote:Left ear about 13.5K, right slightly more reaching about 14K.
But I perceive volume slightly lower in my right ear.
I'm 40.
All I can say is I'm glad I can still hear, and I love music.
- KVRAF
- 1569 posts since 19 May, 2011 from North Carolina
I'm 52 and can still hear up to around 15K in both ears if I'm being honest; at a volume where lower frequencies are loud but comfortable. I tried to do it blind - start at 20k and adjust down until I heard something other than my tinnitus - which I guess is not as bad as I thought, but we can never know what someone else hears. I only really notice mine when I'm thinking about it or it's absolutely silent.
I used Shure 215 buds.
It's interesting because I've played in bands my whole life as an amateur, but almost always wear ear protection. I think even if you're just cutting 10 or 12 db it can make a huge difference. Still, given some of the concerts I've been to, I expected my hearing to be worse.
However, I've never worked/lived in noisy environments. My understanding is that some research points to constant, mid-level noise as being as damaging as the occasional loud concert, etc.. In any case, I've also learned do sound design/tracking at pretty low volumes now (especially since I use headphones/buds a lot), and only turn it up occasionally when mixing, etc.
Also - and can't stress this enough if you're new to production and especially if you use cans/buds: Put a limiter on the master; if you're using Live save it in your default template. One errant plug is all it takes...
I used Shure 215 buds.
It's interesting because I've played in bands my whole life as an amateur, but almost always wear ear protection. I think even if you're just cutting 10 or 12 db it can make a huge difference. Still, given some of the concerts I've been to, I expected my hearing to be worse.
However, I've never worked/lived in noisy environments. My understanding is that some research points to constant, mid-level noise as being as damaging as the occasional loud concert, etc.. In any case, I've also learned do sound design/tracking at pretty low volumes now (especially since I use headphones/buds a lot), and only turn it up occasionally when mixing, etc.
Also - and can't stress this enough if you're new to production and especially if you use cans/buds: Put a limiter on the master; if you're using Live save it in your default template. One errant plug is all it takes...
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 9 Oct, 2014
Ohh I've tested my cat's, and she hears well..
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 126 posts since 14 Jun, 2012 from South of Mars
12k is an achievement for someone whose 60.. congratsbluedad wrote:With the headphone volume all the way up I can hear to 12k; after that it's more like feeling a presence but actually after 14 even that disappears.
I'll be 60 in 3 months.
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- KVRist
- 200 posts since 17 Jan, 2003
willdub1 wrote:it was closed back headphones. I wonder what this will mean for me... did you take the test? what was your findings?gassle wrote:When using open back headphones for these tests at very high frequencies you might get a certain cancelation/phasing effect at very specific frequencies so sound might feel like it's going left or right. Moving headphone caps on your head, pushing it or pulling it a bit back, even changing your position in a wet room might change those frequencies. If it's closed headphones, that's another matter though.
Actually I did the test with a couple closed headphones today. And weirdly I seem to have a similar thing. My left ear is like 8db less sensitive to 7.7 khz. (But hears 7.6 and 7.8 perfectly equal to right ear). And my right ear is ~10db less sensitive to 7.9. Same with 2 pairs of different brand headphones and when I reverse the headphones. But my hearing goes well up to 17 khz after that with no other similar gaps.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 126 posts since 14 Jun, 2012 from South of Mars
You're lucky though. The frequencies aren't that far apart so you shouldn't hear that much of a difference. Mines at 6k left ear and 10k right ear. So I'm probably hearing things way out of phase or in an different stereo spread than most people and don't even know it.gassle wrote:willdub1 wrote:it was closed back headphones. I wonder what this will mean for me... did you take the test? what was your findings?gassle wrote:When using open back headphones for these tests at very high frequencies you might get a certain cancelation/phasing effect at very specific frequencies so sound might feel like it's going left or right. Moving headphone caps on your head, pushing it or pulling it a bit back, even changing your position in a wet room might change those frequencies. If it's closed headphones, that's another matter though.
Actually I did the test with a couple closed headphones today. And weirdly I seem to have a similar thing. My left ear is like 8db less sensitive to 7.7 khz. (But hears 7.6 and 7.8 perfectly equal to right ear). And my right ear is ~10db less sensitive to 7.9. Same with 2 pairs of different brand headphones and when I reverse the headphones. But my hearing goes well up to 17 khz after that with no other similar gaps.