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Hello,
DrFolder wrote:
MFXxx wrote:
Compyfox wrote:
claesbjo wrote:
DrFolder wrote:Will there be AOT for the mixer? . For me it's crucial.
+1 yes please, can´t believe it got removed with CBP 8
Care to elaborate what you mean with AOT?!
I'm going to guess "Always on Top".

Personally not an issue simple F3, however usually on monitor 2 for ease.
Yes AOT is always on top and when working on a 4k screen it is crucial. Can't use Cubase other wise as the mixer disappears behind the arrangement the minute I click on it. Infuriating. Otherwise I have to split the screen in 2 and have a lot of wasted space.
Always on top on the Mixer was removed as it was the only way to fix the plug-ins hiding behind it, which was a mayor complain in Cubase 7.5

Best regards,
GN
Guillermo Navarrete, Product Specialist
Steinberg
Hamburg, Germany
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Not only in 7.5... since the introduction of the new mix console rather.
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Guillermo Navarrete wrote:Hello,
DrFolder wrote:
MFXxx wrote:
Compyfox wrote:
claesbjo wrote:
DrFolder wrote:Will there be AOT for the mixer? . For me it's crucial.
+1 yes please, can´t believe it got removed with CBP 8
Care to elaborate what you mean with AOT?!
I'm going to guess "Always on Top".

Personally not an issue simple F3, however usually on monitor 2 for ease.
Yes AOT is always on top and when working on a 4k screen it is crucial. Can't use Cubase other wise as the mixer disappears behind the arrangement the minute I click on it. Infuriating. Otherwise I have to split the screen in 2 and have a lot of wasted space.
Always on top on the Mixer was removed as it was the only way to fix the plug-ins hiding behind it, which was a mayor complain in Cubase 7.5

Best regards,
GN
Thanks. Why is that such a problem with Cubase and not others daws like Protools and Reaper?

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Good, I might actually be able to use the cubase 8 I payed £400 for properly.

At least I wast able to use 7.5 with the dongle.

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Personally happy way mixer works as is. Maybe biased but simply pop on second monitor, or when using main monitor only the simpl F3 toggle works fine.

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topaz wrote:Look and learn steinberg.

https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/liv ... ase-notes/
You mean they should learn to write release notes? They can already do that! http://download.steinberg.net/downloads ... utions.pdf

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MFXxx wrote:Personally happy way mixer works as is. Maybe biased but simply pop on second monitor, or when using main monitor only the simpl F3 toggle works fine.
I brought a big main monitor because I can't stand 2 monitors and F3 is pain when you don't have to in other daws. Why Steinberg can't have AOT for plugins over the top of a mixer beats me. Other daws offer this way of working for me so I'll use those instead.

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no, I meant they should release frequent updates and participate in a public beta plan.

its simply unacceptable to have a release that has such simple bugs as a metronome pre-count.
chk071 wrote:
topaz wrote:Look and learn steinberg.

https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/liv ... ase-notes/
You mean they should learn to write release notes? They can already do that! http://download.steinberg.net/downloads ... utions.pdf

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topaz wrote:no, I meant they should release frequent updates and participate in a public beta plan.
Do you have a list of what's broken for you? I mean, frequent updates would either mean you build in a lot new features, or fix what's broken, so asking for frequent updates would mean there's a lot broken. Maybe there is for you, i don't know. Never got the point of public betas either, unless you don't have the ressources for internal beta testing.

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[sits back, grabs popcorn and watches the discussion between topaz and chk071]
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Well, it's fair enough to ask what's broken to see whether it would be reasonable to ask for frequent updates or not, isn't it? Apart from that, what's the definition of "frequent updates"? Steinberg releases updates. I think for Cubase Elements 6, i got 5 or 6 updates all in all. Is that frequent? And if the answer is no, what would be the point of more updates, unless there's stuff which is broken. Of course there's always stuff which is broken, it's rather a matter of if it's such a game breaker for most users that it justifies a fix. Most stuff in the release notes is stuff which happens when user A who uses B does C, and then D, and then E happens. So rather rare.

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So by your definition (chk071), i.e. my reports for C7 were not relevant to justify a fix (which is said to be fixed in C8 now with ASIO Guard v2, that I can't test as there is no demo yet), same with others that reported a crazy MCU behavior, Mix Console issues, etc.

Now we're on C8, the most pressing issues are once more the Mix Console and severe graphic issues (I'm aiming at the toolbar and the offset "overlays" for example - something that you only see with very bad shareware - I also read of reports that the Control Room meter is off and heavily lagging). Something that should be fixed in a more active/faster turnus than 2-3 months per maintenance update, or even a "non paid" update rather than a paid one every year (which introduces more tools/features and therefore bugs).

Yet it's not justified, as "most users" don't have that issue.
Kind of a double standard, isn't it?



And with that said - I'm back in my chair again, munching some popcorn, following how this will unravel.
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Compyfox wrote:So by your definition (chk071), i.e. my reports for C7 were not relevant to justify a fix (which is said to be fixed in C8 now with ASIO Guard v2, that I can't test as there is no demo yet), same with others that reported a crazy MCU behavior, Mix Console issues, etc.

I don't know, and i can't judge that. All i know is that you reported severe issues, while others wrote that it worked ok for them. So i can only guess that it happens on specific hardware, which also makes it difficult to reproduce it, if they don't have that hardware to test on. Anyway, not on me to judge that, i don't know even if the things you reported also relate to Cubase Elements which i'm using, so i can't really comment on that. All i'm asking is what is meant with "frequent updates". Some would call 2 updates in half a year frequent, some would call an update every 2 weeks frequent. Calling for frequent updates per se i would call wrong, because if the software is mostly working as expected, and there won't be any new features anyway, i don't see a reason for an update. Take Studio One for example. Since i bought it over half a year ago, there has been no update afaik. It's working fine here, so what...

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:hihi: .....do do do do do do do do....must be Cubase's turn for a public thrashing... :hihi:
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing

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