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Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:11 pm

duncanm wrote:So how does the electribe export work? is it korg gadget style when it just exports the audio or does it acutally export the midi as well?

"The electribe sampler can internally save and export patterns in Ableton Live format. Individual patterns and parts are saved as scenes and clips in an Ableton Live Set."

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dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:57 pm

Just bought the synth version and I'm quite disappointed. The synth engine on this seems to be pretty limited. Essentially it's a preset tweaking machine and options for sound creation are not very deep at all.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:41 pm

dcfac73 wrote:Just bought the synth version and I'm quite disappointed. The synth engine on this seems to be pretty limited. Essentially it's a preset tweaking machine and options for sound creation are not very deep at all.

That is a shame :/
I had a feeling about this and that it has only predefined waveforms on 1 knob.
Is that the case? Or how deep is the synth engine?

Guess i will wait until march instead and get a Roland JD-XI instead.

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:46 pm

D-Fusion wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:Just bought the synth version and I'm quite disappointed. The synth engine on this seems to be pretty limited. Essentially it's a preset tweaking machine and options for sound creation are not very deep at all.
That is a shame :/
I had a feeling about this and that it has only predefined waveforms on 1 knob.
Is that the case? Or how deep is the synth engine?

Guess i will wait until march instead and get a Roland JD-XI instead.

Well I've only had a few hours to muck around with it, but for eg. the oscillator condigurations are on 1 knob and are predefined (eg you can't mix different waveforms). Modulation combinations are preset and not flexible. Also there doesn't seem to be a reverb. I have to admit I am a bit of a synthesis novice, so I'll be happy for someone to correct me, but , as it stands, I was expecting a lot more.
I hope the JD-XI will be better in this respect as well.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:23 pm

dcfac73 wrote:Just bought the synth version and I'm quite disappointed. The synth engine on this seems to be pretty limited. Essentially it's a preset tweaking machine and options for sound creation are not very deep at all.

well... it's the MX (Music Production) version...seems to be the 'jack of all trades' version in other words. The next one is the Electribe Sampler (which will come with a dedicated synth section, suitable for pads and basses/leads apparently). The first electribes had 4 flavours, synth (ea1) - sampler (es1)- drum machine (er1)- and the music production model like yours (em1) ...which is now superceded by the emx and so on

i think after that first original line up they just concentrated on the jack of all trades MX model, and the Sampler model with synth engine.

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:50 pm

It's probably my fault as I should have looked at reviews and researched a bit more before parting with my money, but they made such a big selling point of saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg. I was expecting a lot more. The presets that come with it sound pretty generic ,and not to my taste.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:57 pm

dcfac73 wrote:It's probably my fault as I should have looked at reviews and researched a bit more before parting with my money, but they made such a big selling point of saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg. I was expecting a lot more. The presets that come with it sound pretty generic ,and not to my taste.

no...the same filters as the kingkorg, if I'm not mistaken.

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:07 pm

Daags wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:It's probably my fault as I should have looked at reviews and researched a bit more before parting with my money, but they made such a big selling point of saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg. I was expecting a lot more. The presets that come with it sound pretty generic ,and not to my taste.
no...the same filters as the kingkorg, if I'm not mistaken.

I just took a look at their site and i think you're right. Silly me. I believe I was misled by many of the Youtube promotional videos put out by Korg saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:29 pm

dcfac73 wrote:
Daags wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:It's probably my fault as I should have looked at reviews and researched a bit more before parting with my money, but they made such a big selling point of saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg. I was expecting a lot more. The presets that come with it sound pretty generic ,and not to my taste.
no...the same filters as the kingkorg, if I'm not mistaken.
I just took a look at their site and i think you're right. Silly me. I believe I was misled by many of the Youtube promotional videos put out by Korg saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg.

I wouldn't blame yourself too much, I also expected it to have more in-depth synthesis. Shame. It also just plain doesn't sound good in any demo I've been able to find.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:34 pm

dcfac73 wrote:I believe I was misled by many of the Youtube promotional videos put out by Korg saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg.

haven't seen the videos but maybe they meant waveforms ?

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:43 pm

Daags wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:I believe I was misled by many of the Youtube promotional videos put out by Korg saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg.

haven't seen the videos but maybe they meant waveforms ?

They weren't specific about it. They definately said same synth engine.

As I said before, I am a bit of a synthesis novice and haven't had a chance to fully learn the device. I hope it's a case of speaking too soon, and I hope someone who owns it, and knows how to use it, can enlighten me.

dcfac73 · Post by **dcfac73** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:45 pm

Aiynzahev wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:
Daags wrote:
dcfac73 wrote:It's probably my fault as I should have looked at reviews and researched a bit more before parting with my money, but they made such a big selling point of saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg. I was expecting a lot more. The presets that come with it sound pretty generic ,and not to my taste.
no...the same filters as the kingkorg, if I'm not mistaken.
I just took a look at their site and i think you're right. Silly me. I believe I was misled by many of the Youtube promotional videos put out by Korg saying that it had the same synth engine as the Kingkorg.
I wouldn't blame yourself too much, I also expected it to have more in-depth synthesis. Shame. It also just plain doesn't sound good in any demo I've been able to find.

I think so too....and I still bought it.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:49 pm

dcfac73 wrote:They definately said same synth engine.

It's the same synth engine, it's just that deeper editing isn't available.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:39 pm

Uncle E wrote: It's the same synth engine, it's just that deeper editing isn't available.

hmmm...at that rate it's kind of stretching things imo. if you can't edit it just the same (even with midi cc) then it's maybe more accurate to say it has elements of the same engine or something. i mean, when it comes to synthesis, editing and architecture is key...so... misleading imo.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:46 am

Daags wrote:hmmm...at that rate it's kind of stretching things imo. if you can't edit it just the same (even with midi cc) then it's maybe more accurate to say it has elements of the same engine or something. i mean, when it comes to synthesis, editing and architecture is key...so... misleading imo.

I hear you and I agree that the editing makes a big difference. However, technically speaking, it's the same algorithms and engine.

Anyway, try using the motion sequencer, it's really powerful and goes pretty far for making up for the lack of editing. I used to perform live with the very first Electribes and was always able to get cool things out of them despite their being much, much less editable than the Electribe 2. The motion sequencer was the key.

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