Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]
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- KVRAF
- 2640 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
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- KVRAF
- 10380 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from Austin, TX USA
PPPPUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEChamomileShark wrote:Or replace all your samples with U2 songs.SyntheticAurality wrote:Alchemy still works for me, used 2 instances on a track this weekend.
I worry that someday, I'll get online, Apple will reach out, and the next time I load Alchemy it'll tell me to go buy a Mac and delete itself!
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- KVRAF
- 10380 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from Austin, TX USA
Sorry...egbert wrote:Stop giving those evil f#$%ers ideas!SyntheticAurality wrote:Alchemy still works for me, used 2 instances on a track this weekend.
I worry that someday, I'll get online, Apple will reach out, and the next time I load Alchemy it'll tell me to go buy a Mac and delete itself!
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- KVRAF
- 18433 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
A question to the sound designers who provided third party content for Alchemy (who for the most part have been pretty quiet in this thread) if any if them happens to see this.... Did you sign away the rights to your sample content or did you retain rights so the .sfz files could be legally used in other plugins ?
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- KVRAF
- 2360 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
What are you reading that the rest of us apparently can't see on the feed? All I see is a joke and the same suspects as at KVR saying it's Apple. No actual information apart from an 8-figure deal (with an unnamed entity). What are we missing?jlanthier wrote:Chris Randall is definitely an afficionado of the joke tweet but you need to scroll down and read his other comments, they are pretty serious and matter-of-fact. Definitely can't write this off as an obvious joke.
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- KVRian
- 692 posts since 10 Apr, 2004
Teksonik wrote:A question to the sound designers who provided third party content for Alchemy (who for the most part have been pretty quiet in this thread) if any if them happens to see this.... Did you sign away the rights to your sample content or did you retain rights so the .sfz files could be legally used in other plugins ?
Shake Shake?
- KVRAF
- 18433 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I have no idea what that means.........Rajah wrote: Shake Shake?
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- KVRist
- 322 posts since 15 Jan, 2013 from Victoria BC, Canada
Later on he also mentions Redmatica and ESX24.sjm wrote:What are you reading that the rest of us apparently can't see on the feed? All I see is a joke and the same suspects as at KVR saying it's Apple. No actual information apart from an 8-figure deal (with an unnamed entity). What are we missing?jlanthier wrote:Chris Randall is definitely an afficionado of the joke tweet but you need to scroll down and read his other comments, they are pretty serious and matter-of-fact. Definitely can't write this off as an obvious joke.
....not exactly in a knee-slapper kind of way.
Although looking at it now it looks like his tweet that said something like "Think Redmatica" is now missing from the page. Deleted? Is there anybody else who remembers seeing that?? I remember it pretty clearly, but it really doesn't seem to be there anymore...
Anyway, the point is that something dramatic HAS happened. It's not paranoia. The maker of a fairly major synth has SUDDENLY shuttered his entire business without warning, stating there will be no maintenance updates, and has refused to say a word to the hundreds, or perhaps thousands of people who have invested hundreds of dollars in CA licenses. And this is a developer KNOWN for his accessibility and community involvement.
Although the hundreds of pages in this thread have often been nutty, filled with wild speculation, and many pictures of Camels, cats, and even LeBron... there have been enough nuggets of fact and wisdom gathered here from people who follow the industry closely enough that an Apple buyout has emerged as a strong possibility and not some flaky theory for people who wear foil hats. That's all I'm saying... it's certainly a strong possibility.
- KVRAF
- 18433 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
The following post was made in the CA company forum on Jan 6....one day before the announcement of closing down.
Oliver [Camel Audio]
Or a response from a support person who knows that's his last day at work ?
Oliver [Camel Audio]
Does that sound like a company that's planning on closing down....the next day ?@pentool - apologies for the delayed response, I replied to you via support earlier, but thought I'd best put something here too.
This doesn't sound like an issue with the demo etc. but more an issue with Live's clip properties being set with a bank change number?
Does the same thing happen if you try in a fresh, empty project with a freshly created MIDI file?
You could send the existing Live project file into us if you like and we'll see if we can recreate the problem in Live and work out what's happening.
Thanks,
Oliver
Or a response from a support person who knows that's his last day at work ?
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- KVRAF
- 2465 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
Yes. In *exactly* the same way as Redmatica.jlanthier wrote:Anyway, the point is that something dramatic HAS happened. It's not paranoia. The maker of a fairly major synth has SUDDENLY shuttered his entire business without warning, stating there will be no maintenance updates, and has refused to say a word to the hundreds, or perhaps thousands of people who have invested hundreds of dollars in CA licenses. And this is a developer KNOWN for his accessibility and community involvement.
With the exception of giving users a longer time to redownload their software - learnt from Redmatica, which gave users, like, two weeks otherwise you were out of luck...
Indeed.jlanthier wrote:Although the hundreds of pages in this thread have often been nutty, filled with wild speculation, and many pictures of Camels, cats, and even LeBron... there have been enough nuggets of fact and wisdom gathered here from people who follow the industry closely enough that an Apple buyout has emerged as a strong possibility and not some flaky theory for people who wear foil hats. That's all I'm saying... it's certainly a strong possibility.
- KVRAF
- 6241 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
indeed, weird as possible...Teksonik wrote:The following post was made in the CA company forum on Jan 6....one day before the announcement of closing down.
Oliver [Camel Audio]Does that sound like a company that's planning on closing down....the next day ?@pentool - apologies for the delayed response, I replied to you via support earlier, but thought I'd best put something here too.
This doesn't sound like an issue with the demo etc. but more an issue with Live's clip properties being set with a bank change number?
Does the same thing happen if you try in a fresh, empty project with a freshly created MIDI file?
You could send the existing Live project file into us if you like and we'll see if we can recreate the problem in Live and work out what's happening.
Thanks,
Oliver
Or a response from a support person who knows that's his last day at work ?
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- Banned
- 2238 posts since 19 Dec, 2014
Teksonik wrote:The following post was made in the CA company forum on Jan 6....one day before the announcement of closing down.
Oliver [Camel Audio]Does that sound like a company that's planning on closing down....the next day ?@pentool - apologies for the delayed response, I replied to you via support earlier, but thought I'd best put something here too.
This doesn't sound like an issue with the demo etc. but more an issue with Live's clip properties being set with a bank change number?
Does the same thing happen if you try in a fresh, empty project with a freshly created MIDI file?
You could send the existing Live project file into us if you like and we'll see if we can recreate the problem in Live and work out what's happening.
Thanks,
Oliver
Or a response from a support person who knows that's his last day at work ?
They're providing support until July 7th....
- KVRAF
- 18433 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Really ? Where ? Have you had any technical support from them since Jan 7th ?Daags wrote:They're providing support until July 7th....
They are allowing people to download their purchased products until July 7th. Some people have been having trouble just getting a response to license transfer requests.........
Anyway the post I quoted earlier and ZenPunkHippy with over 10,000 posts just disappearing last November...........the whole story is bizarre.
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- KVRist
- 322 posts since 15 Jan, 2013 from Victoria BC, Canada
So therefore you don't think it's weird that the CA employee would think it would "be best to put something here" on the forum the day before the entire forum got locked??? C'maaaan...Daags wrote: They're providing support until July 7th....
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- KVRian
- 835 posts since 28 Apr, 2014 from Texas
How big of a role did Oliver have at Camel Audio? It could have just been Ben in on the discussion with Apple for all we know.jlanthier wrote:So therefore you don't think it's weird that the CA employee would think it would "be best to put something here" on the forum the day before the entire forum got locked??? C'maaaan...Daags wrote: They're providing support until July 7th....
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