What is lost in tape recording compared to original wax cylinder?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 335 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
I'm just not getting that scratchy-ghost-in-a-tin-can-sound that was so good on the Edison wax cylinders.
I know - 'don't be such a smart-arse skitchy'
I know - 'don't be such a smart-arse skitchy'
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35098 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
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- KVRAF
- 14656 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
You seem to forget the order:
Wax Cylinder -> Shellac -> tape
Very old recordings were directly recorded on to shellac before tape was invented and took over for better editing capabilities.
Liek, srlsy!
Wax Cylinder -> Shellac -> tape
Very old recordings were directly recorded on to shellac before tape was invented and took over for better editing capabilities.
Liek, srlsy!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 335 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
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- KVRAF
- 6323 posts since 30 Dec, 2004 from London uk
Gotta be Beeswax or its not analogue.
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Seems to have made a comeback in the futureCompyfox wrote:-> Shellac ->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbLGNDqUxA
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- KVRAF
- 14656 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
Only if they turned sentient and with a spelling mistake.
Am I missing something, other than the obvious hipster comment?
Don't know where you come from, but MiniDisk came after HDD recording and CD releases?skitchy wrote:But Shellac is like, soooo Minidisc.
Am I missing something, other than the obvious hipster comment?
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
I was thinking it was because MD and Shellac was "transitional" media that never quite did catch on, but Shellac was used for a long time it appears:Compyfox wrote:Don't know where you come from, but MiniDisk came after HDD recording and CD releases?
"Until the advent of vinyl around the 1940s, most gramophone records were pressed from shellac compounds. From 1921 to 1928, 18,000 tons of shellac were used to create 260 million records for Europe. In the 1930s, it was estimated that half of all shellac was used for gramophone records. Use of shellac for records was common until the 1950s and continued into the 1970s in some non-Western countries.
And MD is a lossless format, so it is not a good comparison...
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- KVRAF
- 14656 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
Sorry to disappoint you - MD is not lossless.
The system uses a "similar" masking system like MP3, though not as strong - and you're still limited to 74minutes (normal play). Else you wouldn't get as much on this small disk. That it never really caught on in certain areas(!), lies on a whole different ballpark.
The system uses a "similar" masking system like MP3, though not as strong - and you're still limited to 74minutes (normal play). Else you wouldn't get as much on this small disk. That it never really caught on in certain areas(!), lies on a whole different ballpark.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 335 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
I didn't mean anything in particular - just a joke about comparing different recording media (like my OP).
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
See what you can learn by being that smart-arse skitchy?
Happy Musiking!
dsan
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dsan
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- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
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- KVRAF
- 2583 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
A friend has this catch phrase that seems applicable, so....Numanoid wrote:Euro house, or happy hardcore?dsan@mail.com wrote:Happy Musiking!
Why are these my only choices?
I believe every thread should devolve into character attacks and witch-burning. It really helps the discussion.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 335 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Yes - I should do it more often, to more people and to a greater extentSee what you can learn by being that smart-arse skitchy?
I actually have a massive pile of shellac records gathering dust somewhere. Every time they get moved you invariably hear a disheartening 'crunch' at some point in the operation.