Progressive NES chiptune - Supernatural Trolley
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
I'm making a chiptune album. No VST instruments or FX, just pure tracker minimalism. This will probably be the opening track. I'm having so much fun and I don't even have to open my DAW!
http://soundcloud.com/sendy/supernatura ... -much-done
Made in FAMItracker, with the Namco 163 expansion, giving me the following monophonic channels:
2 pulse waves - with 3 selectable duty cycles (actually 4, but two are phase equivalent)
1 4-bit triangle wave - no volume control for this
1 pitched noise channel - with 15 colours of noise
1 DPCM sample channel - no volume control, limited pitch, and it messes with the volumes of the other channels and sounds very bad (I only used it for the orch hit in this track)
2 4-bit wavetable channels - with 8 or 16 arbitrary, drawable waveforms that you can step through for crude sweeps. I use this for 16-step PWM, fake filter sweeps, sync effects - pretty much anything you can imagine and draw!
From these crude ingredients, there's much fun to be had. I dare say, by reducing the possibilities available to you, you can truely experience how limitless music is. It's almost asif the endless possibilities of the VST environment obscure the endless possibilities that exist in music, a priori. (anyone who composes at a piano will possibly know what I mean)
Anyone looking to get into chiptunes, feel free to ask me questions!
http://soundcloud.com/sendy/supernatura ... -much-done
Made in FAMItracker, with the Namco 163 expansion, giving me the following monophonic channels:
2 pulse waves - with 3 selectable duty cycles (actually 4, but two are phase equivalent)
1 4-bit triangle wave - no volume control for this
1 pitched noise channel - with 15 colours of noise
1 DPCM sample channel - no volume control, limited pitch, and it messes with the volumes of the other channels and sounds very bad (I only used it for the orch hit in this track)
2 4-bit wavetable channels - with 8 or 16 arbitrary, drawable waveforms that you can step through for crude sweeps. I use this for 16-step PWM, fake filter sweeps, sync effects - pretty much anything you can imagine and draw!
From these crude ingredients, there's much fun to be had. I dare say, by reducing the possibilities available to you, you can truely experience how limitless music is. It's almost asif the endless possibilities of the VST environment obscure the endless possibilities that exist in music, a priori. (anyone who composes at a piano will possibly know what I mean)
Anyone looking to get into chiptunes, feel free to ask me questions!
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from betwixt
Love the arp sound that comes in around 3:00 to 3:10 and the lead just after that. I've never really heard music like this until recently. It's very catchy and makes you want to move! If I start adding chiptune-ish sounds in my own work... it's all your fault!!!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
That's blame I'm willing to carry
Thanks for listening! Somehow, this did turn out quite dancey, more so than my usual excursions into DAW-land. Not sure why, but the chiptune aesthetic often makes me try making/listening to music that I don't normally get into that much. For example - there's a lot of r+b tinged acid jazz style chiptunes that get quite popular (one was even sampled by some commercial rap dickhead, he ripped the whole song, added an 808 beat and lyrics+girls, and instant profit). Not a style I'd normally listen to, but when it's chiptune, I love it.
Thanks for listening! Somehow, this did turn out quite dancey, more so than my usual excursions into DAW-land. Not sure why, but the chiptune aesthetic often makes me try making/listening to music that I don't normally get into that much. For example - there's a lot of r+b tinged acid jazz style chiptunes that get quite popular (one was even sampled by some commercial rap dickhead, he ripped the whole song, added an 808 beat and lyrics+girls, and instant profit). Not a style I'd normally listen to, but when it's chiptune, I love it.
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
- KVRAF
- 6322 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
Quite catchy! Lots of good hooks.
Unfortunately, I don't enjoy chiptune sounds. I would like to hear this redone with warm analog retro synths.
Unfortunately, I don't enjoy chiptune sounds. I would like to hear this redone with warm analog retro synths.
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Funny you should mention that, this track is actually a remake of a tune I made on the Amiga when I was at school. Obviously, since I'm a lot older now, my arranging skills are a little better, so I prefer this version, but it's true to the source material.Frantz wrote:Quite catchy! Lots of good hooks.
Unfortunately, I don't enjoy chiptune sounds. I would like to hear this redone with warm analog retro synths.
The problem with VST environment is that it's hard to get those soaring portamento leads, but I may have a go at a remake of the remake, by either redoing it from scratch in Cubase, or importing the individual tracks and replacing some parts with VST synths, and running others through some filters etc to take the edge off a bit.
Certainly I can understand chiptune sounds are very bright and artificial sounding, and an acquired taste
Thanks for listening!
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Funny chiptune, remembers me a bit of Lemon Jelly...
Makes me wanna dream of my old AMIGA 500 in the 90ies...
Makes me wanna dream of my old AMIGA 500 in the 90ies...
- KVRAF
- 6322 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
That explains the 80s style "orchestra" hits. I think the whole thing would sound great Diva-fied.Sendy wrote: Funny you should mention that, this track is actually a remake of a tune I made on the Amiga when I was at school.
I got started with Music-X on Amiga. It was ahead of it's time.
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- KVRAF
- 2991 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Great composition and sounds! What is the VST limitation for the soaring portamento leads?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Thanks
Well, in a tracker you have instantaneous control of portamento, vibrato, volume, etc, wheras in a DAW like Cubase you have to draw curves or use a fixed portamento time as set in the synth. It doesn't help that there are no markers on the graph you have to draw for pitchbends, and it can all get a bit messy and trial-and-error prone.
Well, in a tracker you have instantaneous control of portamento, vibrato, volume, etc, wheras in a DAW like Cubase you have to draw curves or use a fixed portamento time as set in the synth. It doesn't help that there are no markers on the graph you have to draw for pitchbends, and it can all get a bit messy and trial-and-error prone.
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
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- KVRAF
- 3278 posts since 22 Jul, 2009
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Thanks
I do have Renoise, but last time I installed it I was out of practice with the tracker workflow. This burst of productivity with FAMItracker has fixed that, though.
It's amazing just how much sound design you can do with a lot of these old soundchips. I've learned so much by studying other composers' chip works and working on my own. I honestly believe that it feeds back into my regular music in a very positive way and fosters creativity and working within limitations.
I've also tidied up and re-uploaded the track. Now it has a coda, it's been tidied up a bit, the mix has been improved (read: volume adjustments and envelopes) and some harshness removed from the snare!
http://soundcloud.com/sendy/supernatura ... -much-done
I do have Renoise, but last time I installed it I was out of practice with the tracker workflow. This burst of productivity with FAMItracker has fixed that, though.
It's amazing just how much sound design you can do with a lot of these old soundchips. I've learned so much by studying other composers' chip works and working on my own. I honestly believe that it feeds back into my regular music in a very positive way and fosters creativity and working within limitations.
I've also tidied up and re-uploaded the track. Now it has a coda, it's been tidied up a bit, the mix has been improved (read: volume adjustments and envelopes) and some harshness removed from the snare!
http://soundcloud.com/sendy/supernatura ... -much-done
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
Sendy wrote:I'm making a chiptune album. No VST instruments or FX, just pure tracker minimalism. This will probably be the opening track. I'm having so much fun and I don't even have to open my DAW!
Anyone looking to get into chiptunes, feel free to ask me questions!
Cool, looking forward to your album!
... no DAW but same (or more) fun I guess... goofed off with some trackers some time ago, they were very interesting but I didn't persevere learning them to actually have that much fun.
actually I'm looking to get into chiptunes if I'll have time in the future... I always enjoy/love creating melodies and instrumentation... chiptunes are cooler than "normal" music since you can imagine what the instrumentation sounds like real or whatever ( as comparison it's like reading the book instead of watching the film I guess?) + it's the nostalgia and cultural factor...
Can't wait for Plogue to release the voice synth!
You know what you should do just for fun? take the RAW tracks, import them into your DAW and do a fun mix...feel free to add as much DSP you like... for example, try to add this new NI Replika on every track or something...
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- KVRian
- 938 posts since 29 May, 2011 from Germany
Very entertaining piece, made me want to go to the cellar and dig out my C64!