KVR Audio

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:13 pm

Hi,
I downloaded and tested this measurement plugin:

http://dynamicrange.de/es/es/download#menu1

And was a bit surprised.

I compared a webradio broadbast (WDR2-Germany) of the song Shakira-Empire with the Amazon-download of the same song.

result:

Webstream: DR 10
Amazon Download: DR 5

So the download has a lower dynamic range than the webstream. I didn't expect this.

Normaly radio FM broadcasts are compressed a lot, is this not the case with webstreams?

Chris

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:13 am

Here a graphical comparison:

looks like the download from the store was send through a limiter I guess.

Hermetech Mastering · Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:31 am

There are often multiple releases of the same music, some of which have been disastrously over limited, and some of which haven't. Finding the "good" ones is all part of the fun.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:03 pm

As mentioned:
Chances are that the Webstream had access to a less densely compressed version (so called "radio edits") or is using a declipper matrix (possible to a certain extend).

Either way, this clearly shows why the loudness war needs to end.

BTW:
The DR-Meter is an outdated system to measure loudness. But that's just me.

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:57 pm

I agree, it doesn't measure loadness.
It measures the difference between RMS level and peak level. Whatever this means.

The DR number is some indication how "compressed" a track is.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:58 pm

My KVRmarks might help.

fese · Post by **fese** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:08 pm

Hermetech Mastering wrote:There are often multiple releases of the same music, some of which have been disastrously over limited, and some of which haven't. Finding the "good" ones is all part of the fun.

you have a very peculiar understanding of "fun"

Dynamic Range Meter