Best Cloud/Online Backup Service That Respects Privacy & Copyright?

[Burillo]

You think Microsoft is going to respect your rights?

sometimes hell freezes over, apparently.

Well, not exactly. They're just trying to protect their European business. US companies are suffering due to government snooping, and MS is trying to do damage control overseas. It's not just about individuals, its about EU regulations. If they are found in violations of them, they could be run out of all of EU countries which could result in billions in lost revenue.

well, true, but sometimes your rights and money interests coincide

[fluffy_little_something]

I don't trust any of those services, especially not American ones. I have organized my data in a way that allows me to backup my computer by dropping a single folder onto my USB pen drive. This way it stays with me.
What is an online backup good for when you need Internet access in order to fix your computer?

[standalone]

i myself don't use any - i don't use cloud services myself (or rather, i use one that i host myself). but i would recommend TrueCrypt or PGP (or its derivatives, GnuPG et al). maybe something that uses Blowfish or Twofish, as those are strong algorithms too.

http://threatpost.com/ominous-warning-o ... own/106343

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05 ... the-above/

[Burillo]

i myself don't use any - i don't use cloud services myself (or rather, i use one that i host myself). but i would recommend TrueCrypt or PGP (or its derivatives, GnuPG et al). maybe something that uses Blowfish or Twofish, as those are strong algorithms too.

http://threatpost.com/ominous-warning-o ... own/106343

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05 ... the-above/

that's a simplistic view of the situation.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/04 ... ious-code/

the second phase of the audit is apparently still ongoing.

when the author doesn't want to support the security software any more, it's natural to consider it insecure. in fact, i applaud the author for making it so explicit. "not supported" doesn't necessarily mean "backdoored" or "insecure" - it appears to be pretty secure up until the point the development stopped. it's just that now that it's unsupported, future security cannot be guaranteed. however, since there are no known vulnerabilities in TrueCrypt (there were several minor bugs, but none are exploitable as far as i know), it's still pretty safe to use.

also, https://ciphershed.org/

[standalone]

You applaud the author? No one knows who the authors are!!!

You basically are telling people to not trust companies like Dropbox or Apple that have nothing to gain stealing your data, that are managed by people who everybody know and, obviously, have full legal liability for the harm that they could cause to you, and put all their trust on a piece of software made by some phantoms that no one has ever met and no one can contact now. A software that was released under one of the weirdest and more ambiguous EULAs ever and that is only half audited and declared as insecure by its own unknown authors.

I think I will happily keep on uploading files to the cloud without a problem. As long as you don't use your dog's name as your master password there is little to worry about.

[Burillo]

You applaud the author? No one knows who the authors are!!!

and that relates to the security of the software how?

You basically are telling people to not trust companies like Dropbox or Apple

i didn't say that. what i said is the cloud itself is inherently insecure (or as secure as its authentication method) - regardless of the company behind the cloud.

that have nothing to gain stealing your data

the problem isn't Apple or Dropbox stealing the data. the problem is Apple failing to protect the data once someone else is out to steal it. and, whether you like it or not, it has a high likelyhood of happening. so the best you can do is add additional precautions, should you choose to use the cloud services.

that are managed by people who everybody know and, obviously, have full legal liability for the harm that they could cause to you, and put all their trust on a piece of software made by some phantoms that no one has ever met and no one can contact now.

again, why does it matter who wrote the software? how is Bitcoin any worse of a cryptographic marvel because no one knows who wrote it? the code was out there for long, and though it wasn't ever formally audited, it's not like it hasn't been looked at before (the link refers to a dictionary attack, but that's basically an admission that there are no other methods - it's not like feds would have a problem coming up with a story if there were).

A software that was released under one of the weirdest and more ambiguous EULAs ever (1) and that is only half audited (2) and declared as insecure by its own unknown authors (3).

1) and this relates to its security how?
2) trivializing a complex issue isn't the best argument.
3) any unsupported security software is potentially insecure. no known attacks on anything TrueCrypt exist.

you also conspicuously evade discussing anything regarding PGP or Blowfish/Twofish. suppose you don't trust TrueCrypt - okay, but both GnuPG and bcrypt should satisfy your trust issues. but no, you chose to concentrate on TrueCrypt and use its unique situation to discard everything else i've said. well done.

I think I will happily keep on uploading files to the cloud without a problem.

uploading stuff isn't the problem. downloading is. especially if it's not you who's doing it.

As long as you don't use your dog's name as your master password there is little to worry about.

apparently not, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[zoobooboozoo]

Thanks for the replies guys,
I think I'll go with dropbox. it's the same price as google drive. I'm not gonna use MS stuff, I just never liked their products so much...

[Gonga]

If you can afford it, I think it's the best choice.

[AudioPhile2]

Hi all.

I'm looking for an afordabble backup/cloud service on top of my original internal HD and external backup HD.

I'll be satisfied with a simple backup service altough features like what gobbler offers are cool.

I could use google drive for this, I think it's quite cheap and reliable but the problem is privcay and copyright. AFAIK google and other companies have this draconian terms of service that makes them litteraly own everything you upload to their servers so if anyone knows of a service that doesn't deal with such I'd be glad to hear about it.

thx in advance.

Had the same concern. Went with IDrive online backup. They have a private key encryption option, so no one, including IDrive, has access to your data besides you. They also offer great features like sync between an unlimited amount of devices, which other services charge extra for. I've been happy with them. Hope that helps https://www.idrive.com/online-backup-security

[urlwolf]

I use copy.com. They are the barracuda network, not amazon like Dropbox

[polaris20]

If you have another location you can store a small computer or NAS, just use Bit Torrent Sync.

Works well for me.

[fese]

You can use something like boxcryptor or cloudfogger to encrypt your data in Dropbox or any supported cloud storage. Of course youths have to trust these vendors and you make yourself suspicious because you encrypt your data