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Hi,

Is there any short cut way of maintaining the varying velocities in a drum loop whilst also creating a crescendo in the drum editor?

More specifically I'm trying to achieve a believable snare roll. So the ghost notes will have a lower velocity but I also want to globally increase the velocity over say a 4 bar period.

Thanks in advance
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Select the notes in the midi-editor. Then you can change the velocity of all the notes in the velocity lane. You will see that at the top-left and top-right of the selection in the velocity-lane you can make a crescendo or/and a decrescendo. It's one of the best features of the midi-editor of Cubase!

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Thanks for your reply kiezum.

I'll try and explain my situation a bit better:

What I would like to do is program in a 1 bar snare roll with stronger hits on the main beat and the off beat, and then the 16ths will be softer. Then I want to duplicate this 4 times........then, I would like to be able to add a crescendo using the line tool that doesn't just draw a straight diagonal line over the varying velocities that I've just programmed in otherwise there would be no point in doing that to start with. What I would like it to do is draw a jagged diagonal so that it merges the varying velocities and the diagonal. :help:
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What kiezum said will do exactly that. You just need to duplicate the hits 1st, then select all notes and go to the lane where you see the velocity lines. When you hover over the 1st one, the cursor changes shape and allows you to pull the beginning down, merging the velocity values.
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Thanks Gravehill, but it's not doing it. I'm wondering if it's something to do with the preferences.

When I select the line tool it just over writes the previous info.
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you dont use the line tool, it is just a select all then you can lower the left side or the right or the whole lot via the middle

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Is this quite a new feature? I'm using cubase 5.

Sorry should have said that to start with.
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I do not see it in my Cubase 5.

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jancivil wrote:I do not see it in my Cubase 5.
Oh well. No snare rolls with crescendo's for me then. I always thought they were overated anyway. :cry:
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When I want a really viable snare or snares crescendo of that kind of length (or even for one bar) I'll use a sample of the crescendo from a library (VSL) that has the thing sampled, basically a loop of a buzz roll and do expression = CC11.
I like shorter, more subtle rolls in BFD2 or 3. It sounds like you want to create the double-stroke roll from single hits from scratch which again I'll do for a shorter gesture. I like doing things manually but not to that extent, but I have that luxury.
What you want is time consuming like a mutha. You might could create a transform in Logical Editor but it seems complex.

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Right, Cubase 5 didn't have that feature. I think they introduced it with version 6.
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Use controller 07 for the change and gradual rise of the snare-roll.
Keep the velocity unchanged to maintain the "feel" of the roll.
If you want tonal color also evolving in addition to the different velocit-layers, slithly add a filter to the snare and use a controller there too.

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That wouldn't really achieve the same thing as scaling the velocities to be higher velocities per a drum library that uses the velocities to give you 'more drum/snares', at least unless you had that drum down as a science, and then put in tons of time shaping that. There would be more than one thing going on preferably; the body of the drum, the ring of it, and maybe the behavior of snares is heard.

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