Why did nobody ever recreate a D-50 or DX7 vst?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 879 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium
There are so many emulations of known vintage synths,
http://vst4free.com/index.php?plug-ins=Synthesizers
but those 2 classics are not out there!
I know there are some emulations of FM synths, or the FM7-8 from NI, but can't find the real thing for the DX7.
Neither the Roland D-50. As you have the SQ8L, I think it should be not that difficult to pump new life into the D-50? The wavetables are simple and it has a digital-analog generator also. (LA synthesis) In fact no LA synthesis synth vst is ever made?
It was one of the most influential sounds of the 80s pop culture, so I think it should deserve a stage?
http://vst4free.com/index.php?plug-ins=Synthesizers
but those 2 classics are not out there!
I know there are some emulations of FM synths, or the FM7-8 from NI, but can't find the real thing for the DX7.
Neither the Roland D-50. As you have the SQ8L, I think it should be not that difficult to pump new life into the D-50? The wavetables are simple and it has a digital-analog generator also. (LA synthesis) In fact no LA synthesis synth vst is ever made?
It was one of the most influential sounds of the 80s pop culture, so I think it should deserve a stage?
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- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 14 Jan, 2014 from The North.
godly wrote: I know there are some emulations of FM synths, or the FM7-8 from NI, but can't find the real thing for the DX7.
What about Dexed ? It is a DX7 Emulator and it can also load sysex files from a real DX7.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=413885
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- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Let me add that there are, in fact, emulations of the DX7, like the mentioned FM7/FM8, that go up to the point of Reading the Sys-Ex files of the mentioned synth. Besides those, you have the free Dexed, already metioned here on KVR. This one is so close that the author claims it will be able to act also as a front end software editor for the real thing.
Here, take another read: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=206555
Seems like you have been a little absent, based on your post.
Here, take another read: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=206555
Seems like you have been a little absent, based on your post.
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Fernando (FMR)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 879 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium
Thx guys,
I know some FM - Dx emulations, but no LA emulation as stated.
That's really missing, as I like my D50 allot (my first love )
I know some FM - Dx emulations, but no LA emulation as stated.
That's really missing, as I like my D50 allot (my first love )
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- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
The synth engine is not that sophisticated, and there are several virtual synths that follow that pattern. What's missing is the Sound ROM, but that is copyrighted by Roland, and therefore, cannot be included anywhere else.godly wrote:Thx guys,
I know some FM - Dx emulations, but no LA emulation as stated.
That's really missing, as I like my D50 allot (my first love )
You can take a look at the virtual Korg M1, for example. It's more or less the same approach, is very good, and it's available. And the virtual edition has much beter filters, with resonance.
The Deep Flight library for Kontakt recreates very well the D50, without using the same D50 ROM sounds, and the Tube OHM Vintage http://www.tubeohm.com/TubeOhm/VINTAGE.html also follows the D50 architecture closely.
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Fernando (FMR)
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- KVRian
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- 879 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium
Thank you so much ! I thought so this was the problem Pitty Roland doesn't release it. Bad business policy I guess?
Where can you find the Korg M1 vst?
I've found it, seems that it's not free though...
http://www.korg.com/us/products/softwar ... page_4.php
Where can you find the Korg M1 vst?
I've found it, seems that it's not free though...
http://www.korg.com/us/products/softwar ... page_4.php
My sounddesign: Synth1/Ex5/D-50 patches https://goo.gl/zE3pkk
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- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
It's not free, of course, but it's very good value. The entire Legacy Collection is very good value for Money and highly recomendable.godly wrote:Thank you so much ! I thought so this was the problem Pitty Roland doesn't release it. Bad business policy I guess?
Where can you find the Korg M1 vst?
I've found it, seems that it's not free though...
http://www.korg.com/us/products/softwar ... page_4.php
Fernando (FMR)
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
+1 It's like every other week a new guy comes in and ask the same question
Based on the popularity of D50, it's high time Roland made a VST of it.
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penguinfromdeep penguinfromdeep https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=193898
- KVRAF
- 1993 posts since 18 Nov, 2008
I would like somebody to circuit emulate dx-7 and emulate the d/a converters, with noise etc .. You know the drill.
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool
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The_Hidden_Goose The_Hidden_Goose https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=10878
- KVRian
- 945 posts since 8 Dec, 2003 from Birmingham-ish, UK (Tamworth, but shhh!)
I often wonder, when a vintage h/w synth emulator is constantly being asked about or proposed as an idea, whether the folks at Roland (or other manufacturer, altho Roland seem to be subject of a lot of these discussions) are watching these threads and deliberately holding off on licensing anything before they feel it's the right time to get the most profit. Letting people winge and whine until they're all so desperate for it that it'll fly out like hotcakes if they finally do it, or licence someone else doing it.
Can't say I blame them for that thinking, if that's the case.
I thought someone had done the D-50 recently. Maybe my mind playing tricks on me, and I'm just thinking about the last thread this was discussed!
Can't say I blame them for that thinking, if that's the case.
I thought someone had done the D-50 recently. Maybe my mind playing tricks on me, and I'm just thinking about the last thread this was discussed!
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- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
I don't know, but based on the "plug-out" of the SH-101 they recently launched, I wouldn't hold my breath for a VI created by them. Not that it should be very difficult for them - they included a complete emulation of the D-50 in the V-Synth XT, so, it would be just a matter of porting the code to a platform suited to work in a regular computer and OS.The_Hidden_Goose wrote:I often wonder, when a vintage h/w synth emulator is constantly being asked about or proposed as an idea, whether the folks at Roland (or other manufacturer, altho Roland seem to be subject of a lot of these discussions) are watching these threads and deliberately holding off on licensing anything before they feel it's the right time to get the most profit. Letting people winge and whine until they're all so desperate for it that it'll fly out like hotcakes if they finally do it, or licence someone else doing it.
Fernando (FMR)
- KVRAF
- 4278 posts since 6 Nov, 2009
The_Hidden_Goose wrote:I often wonder, when a vintage h/w synth emulator is constantly being asked about or proposed as an idea, whether the folks at Roland (or other manufacturer, altho Roland seem to be subject of a lot of these discussions) are watching these threads and deliberately holding off on licensing anything before they feel it's the right time to get the most profit. Letting people winge and whine until they're all so desperate for it that it'll fly out like hotcakes if they finally do it, or licence someone else doing it.
Can't say I blame them for that thinking, if that's the case.
I thought someone had done the D-50 recently. Maybe my mind playing tricks on me, and I'm just thinking about the last thread this was discussed!
Well Yamaha doesn't have a clue. I couldn't even talk about synth patches with one of their American reps. It was the Japanese division who licensed FM8 to open DX7 patches...