i5 vs i7 for a new build
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
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- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
since many here convinced me to go with an intel cpu for my next build vs an AMD chip, a second question. What performance difference would I expect using an i5 vs an i7 chip both clocking over 3ghz ? Would save a little over $100 . . .
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- KVRAF
- 6323 posts since 30 Dec, 2004 from London uk
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
Very good article UltraJv. Thanks for posting
Could have saved me some time deciding on the i7 if i had read this first.....actually, the first 3 paragraphs were enough to convince me I made the right choice.
@MisterNatural - recent price drops on the i7 are worth considering. If you think of the current prices for the i7 vs what the i5 was then it is worth it IMO.
But it's your wallet and only you know that or not. I can tell you the i5 will serve you well if you don't need what the i7 offers. I built with the i5 about 4 years ago and it has been good. Just went with an i7 in a new build, mainly because now it's about the same price as the i5 was then.
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dsan
Could have saved me some time deciding on the i7 if i had read this first.....actually, the first 3 paragraphs were enough to convince me I made the right choice.
@MisterNatural - recent price drops on the i7 are worth considering. If you think of the current prices for the i7 vs what the i5 was then it is worth it IMO.
But it's your wallet and only you know that or not. I can tell you the i5 will serve you well if you don't need what the i7 offers. I built with the i5 about 4 years ago and it has been good. Just went with an i7 in a new build, mainly because now it's about the same price as the i5 was then.
Happy Musiking!
dsan
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Yeah, that article pretty much sums it up w/o a bunch of wasted words. I know you are trying to save coin, but I got over 4 years out of the first gen i7 (a record for me) and I'm now approching just the 1st year with my 4770. I think it's hard, very hard to go wrong with an i7 and I think that on average people can just get on with the business at hand with an i7 and not really have to worry about performance. Just my 2c.
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- KVRian
- 616 posts since 8 May, 2012 from Sydney, Australia
I think saving around $100 is very little when you consider how long you are likely to have your computer for. I had an i7 for around four years before the motherboard died and it was still blazing fast up to it's last minute. Nothing ever overloaded it. I had to get a new one obviously and got an i7 again.
My general rule for cpus is to just buy the fastest you can afford. With computers, you always have to be looking ahead.
My general rule for cpus is to just buy the fastest you can afford. With computers, you always have to be looking ahead.
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
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- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
respect - you guys are right ^
just have to suck it up and spring for a bad-ass upgrade of Mobo, cpu and memory
just have to suck it up and spring for a bad-ass upgrade of Mobo, cpu and memory
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- KVRAF
- 7809 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
Haswell Refresh i7 4790k, Asus Z97k, and 16 gigs of Corsair memory costs $642. Add an SSD, and I got from BIOS to login in 7 seconds flat.
Eventually, you'll run out of CPU power. The more you spend, the further away it is. Eventually, you'll have to buy again. The slower you go, the soon you buy again. It's the Circle Of Life. They sing about it in some Disney movie. I hate it when Disney is right. At any rate, I seem to need to update every 4 years instead of every year at least these days. Keep that in mind when you're thinking about the total cost and how long you'll keep it.
Devon
Eventually, you'll run out of CPU power. The more you spend, the further away it is. Eventually, you'll have to buy again. The slower you go, the soon you buy again. It's the Circle Of Life. They sing about it in some Disney movie. I hate it when Disney is right. At any rate, I seem to need to update every 4 years instead of every year at least these days. Keep that in mind when you're thinking about the total cost and how long you'll keep it.
Devon
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- KVRian
- 755 posts since 25 Aug, 2009
i think it really depends on which i5 and which i7 you're talking about (even within the same generation). There are i5s that aren't very far behind certain i7s and will save you a good bit of gold (usually among dual cores I've seen), and of course there are i7s that make any i5 its bitch (quads and more).
i7 is hard to beat on long-term value in a desktop.
i7 is hard to beat on long-term value in a desktop.
Meh.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Well the standard desktop i5 is missing horsepower vs the similar i7 simply because of the architecture. If you are comparing the laptop ones in the mix, then it does get dicey I suppose.
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- KVRian
- 548 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
I understand the arguments for an i7, but does a person like me really need that much processing power? I never record more than one track at a time, and use only minimum processing; maybe a little eq, reverb or compression, and this is usually added after the track is recorded. I do use sample libraries, but I'm assuming that has more to do with memory than processing power. I'm going to do a new build and I sure could use the extra $100 bucks I'd save by purchasing an i5 over an i7. I'm on a very, very tight budget. What do you experts think? Thank you for your comments.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Saving coin is always a good thing. I think the argument goes back up a few posts where it's cost/vs longterm use so I'll not repeat myself. Inherently, there is nothing wrong with going i5.
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- KVRian
- 737 posts since 24 Mar, 2013 from Amsterdam
If you work with Sonar X it would be an extra argumentation to go for the i7 as it supports hyperthreading.
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- KVRAF
- 5813 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
i7.
I would always try to get the actual CPU/motherboard/RAM/power supply etc for a new build(it must not be the high-end stuff where you pay $900 for a CPU) but it should be in the actual range for a top CPU. So we speak about at least a 4770 (I would go for 4790k if it comes to the best ratio for performance/price).
I expect this will be your system for the next 3, 4 years or more. Often you don't need the power today but things can change in 1 or 2 years
I would always try to get the actual CPU/motherboard/RAM/power supply etc for a new build(it must not be the high-end stuff where you pay $900 for a CPU) but it should be in the actual range for a top CPU. So we speak about at least a 4770 (I would go for 4790k if it comes to the best ratio for performance/price).
I expect this will be your system for the next 3, 4 years or more. Often you don't need the power today but things can change in 1 or 2 years
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- KVRian
- 537 posts since 18 Jul, 2006
You honestly don't need a super powerful processor considering your use. A core i5-4670k will be more than enough for the years to come.rcat wrote:I understand the arguments for an i7, but does a person like me really need that much processing power? I never record more than one track at a time, and use only minimum processing; maybe a little eq, reverb or compression, and this is usually added after the track is recorded. I do use sample libraries, but I'm assuming that has more to do with memory than processing power. I'm going to do a new build and I sure could use the extra $100 bucks I'd save by purchasing an i5 over an i7. I'm on a very, very tight budget. What do you experts think? Thank you for your comments.