Groove Agent 4 is finally here!
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- KVRian
- 540 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
I really like the tight integration with Cubase. But I think that Halion can do almost everything Groove Agent can (loopslicing, drum-samples, midi-player, flexphraser, etc). What does Groove Agent add to what Halion can do already?
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- KVRAF
- 4851 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
Hey Steinberg can you lose the gun metal background on GA4 pretty please?
It looks like it belongs on a website from 1997.
Its on the inspector in Cubase 7.5 too. It used to be the entire background for the new mixer but someone had the good sense to remove it.
It looks like it belongs on a website from 1997.
Its on the inspector in Cubase 7.5 too. It used to be the entire background for the new mixer but someone had the good sense to remove it.
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- KVRAF
- 4851 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
To be honest with all the talk of 22,000 samples I was expecting a better organised library with samples listed according to type, kicks, snares, hats etc. Instead you have to use the browser (not media bay) to go through every Groove Agent folder separately looking for that one kick, snare or whatever and then move onto the next folder. Even using the "favourites" function it would still be a massive chore. The deep folder option from Cubase media bay would go someway to making it easier to search for things at least. The media bay seems to be tuned only to search for full kits.
An instrument set listing parts according to type would be welcome or at least an extra folder in the sample browser view with all parts in sub-folders according to type. Not much to ask from the "ultimate drum studio".
Oh well I can continue to use my current drum sample folders I suppose.
Speaking of the media bay, the top half is really not much use and most of the categories are completely superflous. The instrument set icons already select what type of kits you need. The attached image is how I am using the media bay at present. Mediabay works in Halion 5 and Cubase because of the variety of material but not here. Like I said the only possible real usefulness for the media bay here would be to search for drum types but it seems the sample browser is for that as I mentioned.
Oh yeah and > Undocking! How cool would it be to have a Groove Agent GUI with the same flexibility as Halion 5? I'm surprised it didn't start out that way seeing as the design is very similar. Undocked Mixer and Pattern editors would be great.
An instrument set listing parts according to type would be welcome or at least an extra folder in the sample browser view with all parts in sub-folders according to type. Not much to ask from the "ultimate drum studio".
Oh well I can continue to use my current drum sample folders I suppose.Speaking of the media bay, the top half is really not much use and most of the categories are completely superflous. The instrument set icons already select what type of kits you need. The attached image is how I am using the media bay at present.
Mediabay works in Halion 5 and Cubase because of the variety of material but not here. Like I said the only possible real usefulness for the media bay here would be to search for drum types but it seems the sample browser is for that as I mentioned.Oh yeah and > Undocking! How cool would it be to have a Groove Agent GUI with the same flexibility as Halion 5? I'm surprised it didn't start out that way seeing as the design is very similar. Undocked Mixer and Pattern editors would be great.
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- KVRian
- 1104 posts since 14 Oct, 2006 from france
+1. It's a mess. But the beat agent sounds are really great !lotus2035 wrote:To be honest with all the talk of 22,000 samples I was expecting a better organised library with samples listed according to type, kicks, snares, hats etc.
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- KVRAF
- 4851 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
I just noticed something else, when you select "all instrument sets" in media bay the number of presets listed shows as 243. But when you select a preset with the Cubase preset box at the top of the plug-in the number of presets shows up as 396.
After a quick check it seems that the standard Groove Agent One kits aren't showing up in the mediabay. I only get 30 kits from the Allen Morgan signature set. The other 66 kits from Groove Agent One aren't showing. I haven't checked what else is missing.
After a quick check it seems that the standard Groove Agent One kits aren't showing up in the mediabay. I only get 30 kits from the Allen Morgan signature set. The other 66 kits from Groove Agent One aren't showing. I haven't checked what else is missing.
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286 - KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
As all sounds are available in 24 Bit and 16 Bit I think the actual number of unique samples/sounds is more like 11.000, but maybe I'm wrong...?
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- KVRAF
- 4851 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
Hah I didn't think of that you're right.Sampleconstruct wrote:As all sounds are available in 24 Bit and 16 Bit I think the actual number of unique samples/sounds is more like 11.000, but maybe I'm wrong...?
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
See, it'll only take you 3 weeks now to preview all these samples in the browserlotus2035 wrote:Hah I didn't think of that you're right.Sampleconstruct wrote:As all sounds are available in 24 Bit and 16 Bit I think the actual number of unique samples/sounds is more like 11.000, but maybe I'm wrong...?
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- KVRAF
- 4851 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
lotus2035 wrote:I just noticed something else, when you select "all instrument sets" in media bay the number of presets listed shows as 243. But when you select a preset with the Cubase preset box at the top of the plug-in the number of presets shows up as 396.
After a quick check it seems that the standard Groove Agent One kits aren't showing up in the mediabay. I only get 30 kits from the Allen Morgan signature set. The other 66 kits from Groove Agent One aren't showing. I haven't checked what else is missing.
A word of warning, selecting a preset from the preset window in Cubase will replace whatever you are doing in GA4. So it seems for now there is no way to add any of the remaining presets from Groove Agent 1 to the 2nd,3rd and 4th slot in GA4. It will always go in the first slot thereby overwriting current settings.
Maybe moving the Allen Morgan presets to the main Groove Agent One folder and deleting the Allen Morgan folder itself will force GA4 to see them.
